Stories from the Field: Mental Health and the Outdoors

224: Navigating Controversy: Dr. Madolyn Liebing's Take on Wilderness Therapy's Future and Addiction Treatment in Outdoor Settings


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In this enlightening episode Will sits down with Dr. Madolyn Liebing, a historical figure in the wilderness therapy field and the clinical director at Legacy Outdoor Adventures and Juniper Recovery Center. Dr. Liebing provides an in-depth look at their blended program for adults, which combines intensive clinical therapy with experiential outdoor adventures, designed to support smoother transitions for clients into their communities. She discusses the therapeutic modalities employed, such as EMDR and emotion-focused therapy, and underscores the importance of addressing trauma, substance abuse, and family dynamics within a nurturing, natural environment.

Dr. Liebing candidly addresses the controversies surrounding wilderness therapy for adolescents, including the criticism following the Netflix documentary "Hell Camp: Teen Nightmare." She shares her concerns about the field including transporting teens as well as generalizations that have tarnished the reputation of wilderness therapy, emphasizing the rigorous safety protocols and therapeutic benefits of well-run programs. Through personal anecdotes and client stories, Dr. Liebing illustrates the profound transformations that can occur when individuals are given the opportunity to heal in the wilderness, away from the pressures and distractions of their usual environments.

The episode takes a deeper dive into the challenges faced by the wilderness therapy field, with Dr. Liebing reflecting on the closures of adolescent wilderness programs and the impact of social media and public perception. Despite these hurdles, she remains optimistic about the future of wilderness therapy, advocating for the expansion of outdoor-based therapeutic models that can reach more individuals in need. Dr. Liebing's insights not only highlight the innovative work being done at Legacy Outdoor Adventures and Juniper Recovery Center but also champion the crucial role of nature in recovery and personal growth, offering a powerful counter-narrative to the skepticism surrounding the field.

We want to thank Adventure Recovery for underwriting Season 18 which focuses on addiction and recovery. 

Listeners are invited to explore the rich archives of over 200 episodes of this podcast on Stories from the Field.com.

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