Today, I'm speaking with Kary Oberbrunner. Kary is the CEO of Igniting Souls Publishing Agency. He's also an author, coach, and international speaker who helps people clarify who they are, why they're here, and where they're going so they can become souls on fire, experience unhackability, and share their message with the world.

In the past twenty years, he's ignited over one million people with his content and trained over 250,000 Authors, Coaches, Speakers, and Entrepreneurs.

In my previous conversations with Kary, we've talked about his books, Day Job to Dream Job and Unhackable. However, this conversation is going to be a little bit different. I recently found a video he posted in 2018 called "Why is the Goal NOT Retirement?" and I knew that I needed to talk to him about it.

In this episode, Kary and I dig into his unique views of true retirement. We talk about the link between our jobs and our health, and the power of living a life with purpose and freedom at any age.

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