Taylor kicks off the show with a conversation about hard work paying off at a later date. We often don't get to see the results of our dedication but then we look back and see how far we've come.

Liv Harrison tries to explain to Taylor what happened in the Oprah interview with Meghan Markle & Prince Harry. He is quite confused. Liv shares her insight and Taylor gives his grand opinion with very limited knowledge.

The show ends with a very quick PodDecks session that leads to a wonderful conversation about Shallow Hal. We love how random these cards make our topics. Enjoy!

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