At the top of the episode, Jory Micah, John Mark McMillan, and Joey discuss the level of importance that spiritual experience is to their faith. 

In our interview with Kat Armas (theologian, author and podcast host of The Protagonistas Podcast), she recounts her journey out of Evangelicalism and introduces us to the beautiful picture of "Abuelita (Grandmother) Theology." Speaking on the Bible as culturally written by men and for men, Kat shows us how easy it is to overlook the great faith of women in the bible, some of whom are completely unnamed. The question also begs to be asked that in our every day life, are the greatest theologians we've ever known those we'd never consider theologians in the first place? We also discuss a myriad of other topics including her journey out of American evangelicalism, pronouns for God, maltreatment of women in the bible, and how the "Good Book," while it strengthens our faith, our love for God and humanity, can (and maybe should) also cause lament, anguish and wrestling in our hearts. 

Kat Armas: @Kat_Armas, Katarmas.comher podcast: https://katarmas.com/theprotagonistaspodcastJ

Jory Micah: @jorymicah, http://jorymicah.com/

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