Hey there Task Force! This week, the crew sat down and with Henrik Langeland, CEO and co-founder of Enode and talked all things interoperability, walled gardens, and Henrik even breaks some exciting news on the podcast! Check out the show notes here:

* (0:00) Welcome to the ThunDERdome, getting DER-pilled, learning more about Henrik, why interoperability is so important

* (9:40) Enode — the origin story, the secret behind the name, the core business, James slips in an early Big Shout

* (20:40) What’s an integration? An analogy to Plaid, the challenges of device management APIs, hot takes on OEMs that don’t want to be interoperable (hint: DERTF Bill of Rights makes an appearance), why walled gardens fail

* (31:08) Digging deeper into walled gardens — is there an argument for the OEMs? Why OEMs can’t grasp the shared resources across all a customer’s devices and widgets vs commodities

* (37:30) New consumer habits in the future (or Norway), developing instincts for an electric frame of reference

* (44:10) Breaking news — Enode raised a $15M Series A! The fundraising process and the experience, how they’re using the money, the European startup scene

* (50:40) If energy were hyperabundant and it ceased to become a meaningful economic driver, then what?

* (56:15) Does Enode exist outside of DERs?

* (57:41) Henrik is energy czar of Europe, dope or nope, BIG SHOUTS

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