My friend Jed and I have had long journeys struggling with clinical mental illness. We’ve been through times of not knowing what to do, times of being on anti-depressants and times of trying life without them. This conversation was captured on March 2nd, which is a snapshot in time, representing a snapshot of our journeys with the ups and downs of depression and anxiety.

At the top of episode, my friends John Mark McMillan and Ellen Mauro talk about therapy and an infatuation with breasts. 

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