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#26 - David Shapiro - Why We Must Defeat Nihilism
Nihilism has become all too popular, and this man is on a mission to fix that! David is a philosopher and technologist focussed on understanding and healing what he calls the "Nihilism Crisis" - the crisis of meaning the world is currently suffering from, especially as it transitions into the AI age.
If you're interested in AI alignment, game theory, incentive design, Moloch and competition, this is very much a conversation for you.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:05 - Defeating Moloch
00:08:02 - The Meaning Crisis
00:14:39 - The Third Attractor
00:15:29 - Post-Nihilism
00:19:17 - The Four Abandonments
00:30:13 - Complexity Destruction & Extremism
00:36:40 - Radical Alignment & Body-First Living
00:44:30 - Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
00:48:04 - Accelerationists & Self Abandonment
00:50:43 - Competition & Status Games
00:52:28 - AI & Why Silicon Valley's Vibe Seems Off
00:58:14 - Sam Altman as a High Priest?
00:59:02 - Summarizing Everything so Far
01:01:33 - Mythic Archetypes
01:07:50 - Liv's Favourite Axioms
01:11:35 - Neurodivergence
01:16:17 - Culture Wars
01:26:26 - Creating the Third Attractor State
Links:
♾️ David's video: Moloch is Losing! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiCUbJAwmgk
♾️ Slate Star Codex
https://slatestarcodex.com/
♾️ John Vervaeke - Awakening from the Meaning Crisis
https://johnvervaeke.com/series/awakening-from-the-meaning-crisis/
♾️ Daniel Schmactenberger - Finding the Third Attractor State
https://consilienceproject.org/media/daniel-schmachtenberger-in-search-of-the-third-attractor-part-1/
♾️ “Good Enough” Parenting study
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/05/190508134511.htm
♾️ The Status Game - Will Storr
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58642436-the-status-game
♾️ An Immanent Metaphysics https://www.amazon.com/Immanent-Metaphysics-Forrest-Landry/dp/B0CPSJ647N
♾️ Roger Walsh - Therapeutic Lifestyle Changes
https://drrogerwalsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/LMH-Summary-for-California-Psychologist-2018-12-20.pdf
♾️ Self Determination Theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination_theory
♾️ Patricia Churchland - Brain Trust
https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691180977/braintrust
♾️ William Ury - Power of the Positive No
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/182089/the-power-of-a-positive-no-by-william-ury/
♾️ The Fourth Turning - William Strauss, Neil Howe
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/174648/the-fourth-turning-by-william-strauss/
Credits:
♾️ Hosted by Liv Boeree
♾️ Produced & Edited by Raymond Wei
♾️ Audio Mix by Keir Schmidt
#WinWinPodcast
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Nihilism has become all too popular, and this man is on a mission to fix that! David is a philosopher and technologist focussed on understanding and healing what he calls the "Nihilism Crisis" - the crisis of meaning the world is currently suffering from, especially as it transitions into the AI age.
If you're interested in AI alignment, game theory, incentive design, Moloch and competition, this is very much a conversation for you.
00:00:00 - Intro
00:02:05 - Defeating Moloch
00:08:02 - The Meaning Crisis
00:14:39 - The Third Attractor
00:15:29 - Post-Nihilism
00:19:17 - The Four Abandonments
00:30:13 - Complexity Destruction & Extremism
00:36:40 - Radical Alignment & Body-First Living
00:44:30 - Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs
00:48:04 - Accelerationists & Self Abandonment
00:50:43 - Competition & Status Games
00:52:28 - AI & Why Silicon Valley's Vibe Seems Off
00:58:14 - Sam Altman as a High Priest?
00:59:02 - Summarizing Everything so Far
01:01:33 - Mythic Archetypes
01:07:50 - Liv's Favourite Axioms
01:11:35 - Neurodivergence
01:16:17 - Culture Wars
01:26:26 - Creating the Third Attractor State
Links:
♾️ David's video: Moloch is Losing! - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiCUbJAwmgk
♾️ Slate Star Codex
https://slatestarcodex.com/
♾️ John Vervaeke - Awakening from the Meaning Crisis
https://johnvervaeke.com/series/awakening-from-the-meaning-crisis/
♾️ Daniel Schmactenberger - Finding the Third Attractor State
https://consilienceproject.org/media/daniel-schmachtenberger-in-search-of-the-third-attractor-part-1/
♾️ “Good Enough” Parenting study
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/05/190508134511.htm
♾️ The Status Game - Will Storr
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58642436-the-status-game
♾️ An Immanent Metaphysics https://www.amazon.com/Immanent-Metaphysics-Forrest-Landry/dp/B0CPSJ647N
♾️ Roger Walsh - Therapeutic Lifestyle Changes
https://drrogerwalsh.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/LMH-Summary-for-California-Psychologist-2018-12-20.pdf
♾️ Self Determination Theory
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-determination_theory
♾️ Patricia Churchland - Brain Trust
https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691180977/braintrust
♾️ William Ury - Power of the Positive No
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/182089/the-power-of-a-positive-no-by-william-ury/
♾️ The Fourth Turning - William Strauss, Neil Howe
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/174648/the-fourth-turning-by-william-strauss/
Credits:
♾️ Hosted by Liv Boeree
♾️ Produced & Edited by Raymond Wei
♾️ Audio Mix by Keir Schmidt
#WinWinPodcast
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