Peter Bebergal is the author of several books about occulture and the paranormal including Season of the Witch: How the Occult Saved Rock and Roll, Too Much to Dream: A Psychedelic American Boyhood, and his newest book, Strange Frequencies: The Extraordinary Story of the Technological Quest for the Supernatural. He also writes about speculative music and literature for such places as The New Yorker online, Slate, The Times Literary Supplement, The Quietus, BoingBoing, and The Believer. On this episode, Peter discusses the importance of imagination, the “reality” of belief, the relationship between magicians and hackers, and the use of technology to access otherworldly realms.

Pam also talks about art and the uncanny, and answers a question from a listener who wonders if she’s being called by a goddess.

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