Mark and Michael speak with Boone Speed about his introduction to sport climbing, basically inventing it in the vacuum of the Wasatch without much exposure to early, outside developments, and that some of the hardest routes in the country developed out of that vacuum. They discuss the influence of graphic design on Boone’s photography, the gulf between commercial work and personal work, artistic collaboration, reductionist philosophy, sites of power and their influence on athletic performance, and the fact that climbing is the only activity that’s happening both on the summit of Everest and in downtown NYC. Boone shares his passion for being on the road, surfing, and how sharks rarely attack absent a prior, specific disruptive event, and how losing every (material) thing might simply mean that you don’t have any shit to worry about anymore.