In part one (ep. 288) we brought in a young to help us look back on more recent Cubs collapses, but for this one we needed an old, so Forklift is here to discuss the Durocher, Franks, Frey and Riggleman editions of Cubs choke jobs, and they were plentiful. We ponder why the '69 era Cubs are so beloved considering they not only didn't win anything important they only won 90 games once. We take another look back at 1977 and watch in horror as the '84 Cubs completely fall apart in 1985. And then are collapses you might not even know happened like in 1996 and 1999. (Oh, and Fork's mic struggles for a little bit in the first 15 minutes, but is rectified for the remainder of the podcast.)