As March 2018 marks Ann With A Plan Lundholm’s second anniversary as an LRB co-host, we’re taking a listen back to her inaugural appearance on the show with Christy and Mike back in 2016. Hear how TBTL (and subsequently LRB) tricked our resident baker into giving us so much of her time and attention. Plus, Ann’s favorite clip from TBTL history—the story of one of Jen’s most brazen and cringeworthy lies—is a perennial favorite.

Don’t mind the long rambling intro from Bobby. He’s really, really obsessed with that new Janelle Monáe song.

Find the original LRB episode here.