In this episode of the Heaven in Business Podcast, Andy Mason and Mike Thakur unpack how to keep your Kingdom business passion and impact white-hot and purpose-driven.

Three years ago, Andy sat down with Mike on The Mike Thakur Podcast—and that single interview re-ignited his “white-hot molten core,” the passion that fuels both Heaven in Business and his personal walk with God in the marketplace.

Today, they revisit that conversation, share fresh insights, and give you practical ways to remember—or find—your why.

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What You’ll Learn

The difference between being a Christian who owns a business and stewarding God’s business

How Heaven in Business began and the million-businessperson vision

Real stories of miraculous supply chain breakthroughs and bold faith decisions

Why business is the primary place to forge a friendship with God

3 Practical Takeaways

Lead with obedience, not just best practice – Follow God’s voice first, then apply excellence.

Don’t walk alone – Surround yourself with wise, proven Kingdom business peers.

Connect your faith and work fully – Live your values through consistent action, not just words.

Timestamps

00:00 – Why revisit a conversation from 3 years ago
02:11 – The call to integrate faith and business
04:24 – Mike’s journey from church planting to coworking business
06:34 – The shift from “business owner who’s Christian” to “Christian business owner”
09:13 – How Heaven in Business started in Redding, California
14:22 – From prayer meetings to city transformation
16:01 – The million-businessperson vision
17:11 – Why business is the primary place to forge friendship with God
18:23 – Conferences, membership, and retreats to activate leaders
21:09 – Staying in your God-given lane
25:29 – Instant miracles vs. the long process of trust
27:20 – When God’s strategy doesn’t make business sense
30:53 – Listening to His voice over all else
32:53 – Biggest mistakes Christian business owners make
38:23 – How to connect with Heaven in Business
43:26 – Partnering with local leaders to impact cities
44:53 – The supply chain miracle story
46:39 – Final encouragement & how to get involved