Today the brilliant British broadcaster and podcaster Edith Bowman joins me to talk about Midlake's 2006 cult classic The Trials of Van Occupanther, how it soundtracked her early relationship with her husband, its qualities of instant nostalgia and why she returns to it time and time again, including as a balm during lockdown. Plus, we talk about her experiences with live music during lockdown, who she's most excited to see next year when touring resumes, the hidden tragedies of the absence of festivals, why she's bad at saying no to things and her long friendship with friend of the show Drew Pearce.