As we begin to get hyped for a new Kelly Reichardt film on the horizon with The Mastermind, The Atlantic staff writer Shirley Li joins us to discuss her 2016 triptych Certain Women. The film adapts three Maile Meloy stories into one film, with each following a different woman whose voice is stifled in their Montana circumstances. With several stars populating the ensemble including Laura Dern, Michelle Williams, and Kristen Stewart, its biggest awards success was with its breakthrough star, Lily Gladstone.

This episode, we talk about our love for Reichardt’s filmography and Gladstone’s silent long take powerhouse moment in the film. We also talk about Williams as the definitive Reichardt actor, Dern’s comic subtlety in the film, and parallel universes for the Oscar ceremony envelope snafu.

Topics also include Lucy, Michelle Pfeiffer, and Reichardt as a purveyor of care.