This episode sees Michael Dwyer and Gary Kavanagh discuss recent events involving asylum seekers in Ireland. They go into what an asylum seeker is, and is not, what a refugee actually is, and is not,

They then turn to the idea that certain ideas, surrounding migration, abortion, travellers, etc, are simply not discussed or represented politically at anywhere near the level of support the public have for them. They end with a discussion of the fragility of democracy and the state.

0:00 - Please don't set fire to direct provision centres

8:00 - What is a refugee? What is international law?

23:00 - The Direct Provision system

35:50 - The Government and its love of doing things through stealth

41:40 foreigners taking our housing

57:55 The refusal to discuss things the public, or large part of the public cares about, like migration, is dangerous and undemocratic

1:03:45 - Michael being wrong.

1:16:35 The right should be better than the left

1:19:00 - Tibet was awful before the Chinese got there

1:22:30 - The refusal of the Irish establishment and media to discuss pretty much anything difficult

1:24:10 - Political correctness

1:26:30 - The birth of a political 'class'

1:29:50 - The growing disconnect between what politicians represent and the public believes - the lack of representation for pro-life voters in the Dail

1:37:00 - Why there is no middle ground between pro-choice and pro-life positions

1:42:50 - Is the issue that we don't realise how instable democracy is?

1:50:50 - Is a problem that Burke is too readable for people to take seriously?