American pilgrim, Cathy Seitchik Diaz has walked the Camino Frances fives times with her husband David. 

In this episode she reveals the surprising three things at the top of her packing list, the bank card you can sign up for to avoid ATM charges and the best time of the year to walk the Camino de Santiago and exactly why.

Hosted as always by Bradley Chermside, who's walked the Camino Frances, the Camino Portuguese and is the author of the Camino de Santiago, international bestselling memoir, The Only Way is West.