Today, the woman being El Perro del Mar, Sarah Assbring, goes from subject of this podcast to a guest, as she joins me in celebration of the 20th anniversary of Spiritualized's 2001 album 'Let It Come Down'. We talk about how the album shook up Sarah's life during a period where she had walked away from performing as a singer-songwriter, how the ambition of the record continues to inspire her, the incredible scope of the album's orchestrations and emotions, the relationship between the album and religiosity, how Sarah has found her own version of the wall of sound used on this album and how she still harbours ambitions to create a record with a similar scope.