Today, the woman who wrote the book on Duran Duran's Rio (out now as part of the 33 1/3 series), Annie Zaleski, joins me to unpack the making of the classic album, how the band's reputation as great musicians has grown the further time moves on from their initial success, how preparation and cooperation helped them make intricate records despite limited studio time, how the sound of the album sits on the precipice before things went 'full 80s', the unexpected influences on the band's sound, their musical and career ambition, John Taylor's genius as a bass player and why they probably won't be jumping on the biopic train anytime soon.