We’re back! And this time with Matt Huber, an absolute legend and advocate for centralized public power. This was a different ep, but one of our favorite in awhile.

In it, we talk about Marxist geography, how bizarre peak oil discourse was, the coming shift to electricity from oil, becoming un-DER-pilled, the possibilities of a centrally-planned decentralized grid, comparing (never before built) neolib renewable supergrids to (ole, proven and trusty) socialist nuclear heavy grids, the inability of tech-y “libertarians” to make cogent arguments around nuclear, SMRs vs big old school nukes, bodega batteries, putting the hard sell on Matt to re-derpill him, all before a huge shift in gears to discuss the future of the global petro-industrial complex, labor and industrialization in the US, utilities vs public power, and so much more!

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