Kathy returns to talk about the feedback she's received from Christians after being on the show the first time, and dives into new territory with David on what it means to be Humanist. Comedian KT Tatara joins in on the discussion with Michael Cain, and news for the 4th Listener. And then: Is censorship a conservative principle? Iraqi born atheist Faisal Saeed Al Mutar and comedian Ian Harris, debate the meanings of Conservative, Left, Liberal, and Right, all from a secular perspective.