Mike Cachuela! Artist! Filmmaker! Animator! Director! Storyteller! Friend! Delight! More! Mike being on the show started with his sending me this message:

"In listening to your podcast, I’m struck by the similarities, between stand-up comedians and story artists in animated films, in working out material on peers and sometimes audiences. In animation you draw and edit storyboards and temp dialog to hone in on something funny. Eliminating the clunky bits and hopefully having a tight presentation by the time the movie is finished. There are usually many iterations to get to the good stuff." "Thanks for your investigations into how creators create and then engineer delivery. I’m developing a Podcast called The Prisoner’s Dilemma. About striking a balance between the passion for one’s art or craft … and paying the rent." That began a conversation that culminated (so far) in the podcast you see (hear) before you now! And this is only the first HALF of our conversation. For part two, subscribe via Apple Podcasts OR merely click on over here to Patreon! Enjoy!