We’re back! And this time we hosted OG DERTF Heads James McWalter (the better James) and Kyle Baranko from Paces at the David Energy HQ. They are working on one of the gnarliest problems in the entire clean energy space: permitting and interconnection. We go deeeep on the problem, so you don’t want to miss this. We are massive fans of them and what they’re building, and had so much fun recording this!

Tune in if you want to hear us go down memory lane on early DERTF days, Kyle and James’ favorite DERs and how they got DER-pilled, private wires, homesteading, solar grazing, why the permitting and interconnection problem even exists, hosting capacity maps, how Paces can help, the journey to founding climate cos, what it’s like being in YC and if more climate founders should do it, the Fractal Grid, creating the clearing price for virtual wires, Sheldon Kimber, utility scale DERs, and so much more!

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