In this very special episode of the Parousia Podcast, Charbel is joined by His Eminence, George Cardinal Pell AC, former prefect of the Secretariat for the Economy at the Vatican. This episode is devoted to getting to know Cardinal Pell, the man behind the headlines. Charbel asks His Eminence about his upbringing, his call to the priestly vocation, his early years as a priest, then his time as Archbishop of Melbourne and Sydney, his work as a Cardinal and his trial, imprisonment and ultimate liberation.