Today legendary singer-songwriter and founder of iconic band The Go-Betweens, Robert Forster, joins me to pay tribute to the legendary Texan troubadour Guy Clark and his debut album Old No. 1. We revisit the fateful night in Santa Monica on the promo tour for 16 Lovers Lane where Robert saw Guy play live and had a damascene conversion to his music, how it impacted the the second act of his career as a solo artist, why Clark never achieved the broad fame of contemporaries like John Prine and Townes Van Zandt, Clark's economy of language and melody and why this is "the Astral Weeks of country music". Plus we delve into Robert's brilliant new album 'The Candle and the Flame', knowing when to stop writing, growing into a better singer as he gets older and how his approach to recording has changed over the years.