Today I have the pleasure of welcoming Patrick Worms on the show. He is a policy advisor for World Agroforestry and the ex-president of the European Agroforestry Federation. We discuss together agroforestry from a policy perspective to understand how we convince decision makers and what type of funding is needed to scale agroforestry. Although much of the conversation is focused on Europe, Patrick gives some insights that will be of great interest to anyone who wants to convince key players of the opportunity of agroforestry. Patrick is an amazing speaker and you will find this interview to be not only highly informative but also entertaining and full of punchlines.

TABLE OF CONTENTS

01:49 Personal background 

04:52 The appeal of agroforestry 

06:23 Work at ICRAF 

08:00 The power of stories

11:22 Missions of EURAF 

18:00 Perception of agroforestry in policy circles 

20:44 What is preventing a scaling of agroforestry? 

23:37 What is blocking agroforestry within EU member states? 

27:55 Agroforestry in the African context 

34:50 Successful examples from East Asia 

41:54 Funding agroforestry 

46:04 What role for private funding? 

52:36 Is the case for agroforestry clear and properly demonstrated?  

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