Today comedian/writer/musician/podcaster Chloe Maddren joins me to shine a light on the less heralded Amy Winehouse album, 2003's Frank.

We talk about the cat she named after the album, fighting against Winehouse's influence on her voice and lifestyle, the difference between the popular conception of Winehouse and who she was on this album, the differences between Frank and Back to Black, identifying with music beyond your age, the jazz influence on the record, being older than Amy Winehouse when she passed away, the validity of teenage pain, the pun of the album title, lyrics that haven't aged well and much more.

We also talk about why she didn't choose a Taylor Swift album, her pop star aspirations, how her comedy career balances with her earnest songwriting, bombing in Bondi and "the girl fedora".

Chloe's standup special 'Hot Girl Stuff (Disordered Eating & Crippling Self-Hate) is available here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=fMzLtyC6VMo&t=65s

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