In this episode, we're joined by Susan Liao, a product leader and champion of liberatory leadership working at the intersection of digital innovation, social entrepreneurship and non-profit impact strategy.

In this episode, we chat about:

• Her journey into tech and product
• Navigating her life through agencies and startups
• Pivoting from the corporate world to impact-driven work
• Conforming into inequitable systems and role, and shifting away to find her voice
• Why we adapt as marginalized communities and how to break away from upholding inequitable systems
• What’s in Susan’s “kitchen sink”
• The future of work, diversifying the spaces we are a part of, and creating different forms of distributing wealth
• Challenging existing systems of work, capitalism, and labor
• The concept of "Space, pace, and grace" - how are we acknowledging rest as part of our work?
• Honoring the north star of the communities around us
• Creating more intention behind our beliefs, words, and actions
• The importance of rest and filling our cup

You can find Susan at:

• LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/susanliao
• Startups for All: startupsforall.org
• Leaders Like Us: leaderslikeus.us

Susan's first startup experience: Print All Over Me with NEW INC's Year 2 cohort  About Ecocycles and strategy knotworking Improving cross-disciplinary collaboration with strategy knotworking and ecocycle planning, by Nancy White   Emergent Strategy https://adriennemareebrown.net/book/emergent-strategy/ Petra Vega (She/Her/Ella), Liberatory Leadership Coach, Facilitator, Radical Social Worker and Emergent Strategist https://createmorepossibilities.com/about-me/   Ruha Benjamin https://www.ruhabenjamin.com/ Respect The Small https://www.instagram.com/p/Ct2gyOcP694/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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