Note from producer: This is an updated version that addresses an audio issue in the original. Thanks for bearing with us. In this episode of Pearls On, Gloves Off...

Mary and Ashley John dig into the dynamic world of legal operations. Ashley, the Head of Legal Operations at Anglo American, brings a unique perspective from his background in mining and geology to his strategic role in a global mining giant.

Key Highlights:

• Introduction to Ashley John: Transitioning from geology to legal ops. Establishing a strategic vision in a multinational team.

• State of Legal Ops: The contraction of senior roles. Has the industry delivered on its promise?

• Quick Wins vs. Long-Term Strategy: Building credibility with immediate successes. Balancing short-term wins with strategic projects.

• Rising Expectations: Clear communication about role expectations. Creating space for transformative projects.

• Reputation and Credibility: Consistent wins to establish trust. Ashley's journey from consultant to dedicated legal ops leader.

• Changing Landscape: Companies adding and eliminating roles. The drive for rapid transformation and value demonstration.

• General Counsel's Role: Setting the tone for success. Leading with a strategic mindset.

• Inclusive Language: Moving away from terms like "non-lawyer" and "alternative". Promoting more inclusive terminology.

• Future of Law Firms: Impact of AI on legal processes. Will the billable hour model survive? The need for a change in mindset.

• Culture of Innovation: Embracing AI and new technologies. Fostering adaptability within legal teams.

Join Mary and Ashley for an insightful discussion on the evolution and future of legal operations, the challenges of the industry, and the transformative potential of AI.

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