Rock'n'roll singer-songwriter Brian Dunne joins me to make a case for 'The River' as the ultimate Bruce Springsteen album. We talk about how it is rarely chosen as the best of Bruce's classic period, how the album was a response thematically and musically to 'Darkness on the Edge of Town', capturing the epic E Street Band live show in an album, the benefits of a double album, class consciousness in songwriting and Brian's experiences seeing Springsteen live and then meeting him when they shared the bill at a benefit concert, and much more.