Tommy and Ben discuss Trump’s Ukraine policy announcement and try to unpack how much of it is style vs. substance. They also talk about the massive layoffs at the State Department, Trump’s bottom-of-the-barrel ambassador picks for crucial posts in Southeast Asia, the investigations into Pete Hegseth’s top aides at the Pentagon, and the president’s excruciating meeting with African leaders at the White House. Additionally, they dig into Trump’s vendetta against Brazil, explore the evidence behind the claim that Jeffrey Epstein worked for Israeli intelligence, the defection of some of Benjamin Netanyahu’s coalition partners, the murder of an American-Palestinian man in the West Bank by Israeli settlers, and the latest Cuba fumble from Marco Rubio. Then, Tommy speaks to Matt Duss, executive vice president of the Center for International Policy and a former foreign policy adviser to Bernie Sanders, about how Democrats must reshape foreign policy for the Trump era and beyond.

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