In this episode, we get to meet singer-songwriter Jesca Hoop. Speaking to me from her home in the UK (though she's originally from California), Jesca and I discuss her new album, Order of Romance. In this chat, she and I talk at length about the record - as she says at one point, she's not afraid to "talk shop." We also talk about the political and health state of the world - including looking at the US from an expat's perspective - and how she funneled her observations about the goings-on of the world around her into these intimate and personalized character studies. We touch upon a lot more too, and Jesca was funny, grounded, and candid - all much appreciated. I think you'll like it. Thank you for listening.