Today we continue our series on student loans with a conversation featuring Cammi Climaco and Jen Mecca. They share their experience with long-term management of loan payments, the effect loans have on family relationships, and student loan forgiveness. Cammi is a NYC based artist and podcast host of The Ceramics Companion. Jen is an artist and educator based in Gastonia, NC. www.cammiclimaco.com www.jenmeccapottery.com

Like many of you I've watched horrific scenes of floods across the South Eastern U.S., including devastation in one of our richest pottery regions Western North Carolina. I want to send my well wishes to those affected by the storm and encourage you the listener to support relief efforts for artists. There's a Go Fund Me site set up for Melissa Weiss, who lost her studio in Asheville, and the organization CERF+ is already organizing relief for those affected. You can find out more and donate at www.cerfplus.org. As the waters recede and more information becomes available, I'll report more on how you can support the community over the next few months.

Today's episode is brought to you by the following sponsors:

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