This is a second brief extract from towards the end of my conversation with the legendary Hunter Lovins.  It opens by looking at the tectonic shift that is apparently underway in the capital flows that will back in regenerative economies.  Where banks are already looking at the stranded fossil fuel assets they’re reclaiming and wondering what to do with them.  And where the opportunities on the other side of the ledger grow.

I heard Hunter say not long ago that the regenerative economy was already bigger than the extractive one in her home state of Colorado.  But that nobody knows.  So we talk about how they found out, how they engaged with 90% of the economy on it, and where else this might be true.  Along with what to look out for.

So much has changed in just the last couple of months, in the world at large and in Hunter’s thinking. “Things are shifting,” she says. And “you can see the shape of the future.”

Title slide: Hunter Lovins, sourced here.

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