Resilience is like a whitebark pine tree: When life tries to beat you down, you stand up strong in the face of adversity.

So what does that mean for those of us who like to go into the mountains?

In this episode of The Fine Line, we step aside from our stories of rescues to have a conversation about resilience and the importance of mental health as a backcountry safety issue.

Our guests for this show are:

Josie McKee is a professional climber, mental health coach for climbers, a volunteer with Lander Search & Rescue, and the director of communications and operations for the Responder Alliance.

Hunter Lee is a mental health coach and founder of Flourish JH.

They sit down with host Matt Hansen to explain why resilience matters to mountain athletes and how backcountry users can be aware of how stress may impact their decision-making.

The Fine Line theme song is by Anne and Pete Sibley, with additional music provided by Ben Winship. Original artwork by Jen Reddy Ink. Editing and sound by Melinda Binks. This interview was recorded in the studios of KHOL 89.1 FM.

This episode is sponsored by https://arcteryx.com.

For more on resilience and stress injuries, go to www.ResponderAlliance.com.

To find Hunter Lee, go to www.FlourishJH.com.