Interview starts at 28:45   Leslie and Stephen Shaw join us for a great chat about UFOLOGY, The conclusion they have come to in their book "WHO THEY ARE - And What They Are Up To" and their personal experiences with UFO's and the spiritual world.   We chat about nuts and bolts, sightings, Orange Obs, the Grey, Abductions, the inner earth, the family spirit guide, USO's, remote viewing machines, tall blue whites, astral projections, his experience with the pyramid, modern disclosure, and whataboutisms.   Underground cities, disembodies voices, black pyramid, the moon, breakaway civilizations, summoning, chi, war of the worlds, sunken arks, telepathy, and the use of 108 are also discussed among many other topics.   Check out their book and links here:   https://www.amazon.com/Who-They-Are-What-Theyre-ebook/dp/B0BKCB5ZD4 https://www.instagram.com/leslie.shaw.author/ https://www.whotheyarebook.com/   In the intro we chat about the holiday Fandango, Christmas, contact at the cabin, our Outlawed Round Up shows.   If you would rather watch: https://rokfin.com/stream/42849   https://rumble.com/v42fnen-leslie-and-stephen-shaw.-who-they-are-and-what-they-are-up-to.html   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDKrIc2wAVk   Help support the show, because we can't do it without ya. If you value this content with 0 ads, 0 sponsorships, 0 breaks, 0 portals and links to corporate websites, please assist. Many hours of unlimited content for free. Thanks for listening!!   Support the show directly: http://www.grimerica.ca/support https://www.patreon.com/grimerica   http://www.grimericaoutlawed.ca/support www.Rokfin.com/Grimerica   Check out our next trip/conference/meetup - Contact at the Cabin www.contactatthecabin.com Our audio book page: www.adultbrain.ca Adultbrain Audiobook YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@adultbrainaudiobookpublishing Grimerica Media YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@grimerica/featured Darren's book www.acanadianshame.ca Grimerica on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/c-2312992 Join the chat / hangout with a bunch of fellow Grimericans  Https://t.me.grimerica https://www.guilded.gg/i/EvxJ44rk Get your Magic Mushrooms delivered from: Champignon Magique  Mushroom Spores, Spore Syringes, Best Spore Syringes,Grow Mushrooms Spores Lab Buy DMT Canada Other affiliated shows: https://grimericaoutlawed.ca/The newer controversial Grimerica Outlawed Grimerica Show Leave a review on iTunes and/or Stitcher: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/grimerica-outlawed http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/grimerica-outlawed Sign up for our newsletter https://grimerica.substack.com/ SPAM Graham = and send him your synchronicities, feedback, strange experiences and psychedelic trip reports!! graham@grimerica.com InstaGRAM https://www.instagram.com/the_grimerica_show_podcast/  Tweet Darren https://twitter.com/Grimerica Can't. Darren is still deleted. Purchase swag, with partial proceeds donated to the show: www.grimerica.ca/swag Send us a postcard or letter http://www.grimerica.ca/contact/ Episode ART - Napolean Duheme's site http://www.lostbreadcomic.com/  MUSIC https://brokeforfree.bandcamp.com/ - The Collector Felix’s Site sirfelix.bandcamp.com - Causing a Time Rift