After we’d signed off on our conversation for the podcast, Tony and I kept talking. Thankfully I hadn’t stopped recording, because what followed could have been the first thing we talked about. In some ways, it sums up everything. So here it is. A little of our parting exchange. Starting with a story from the time of Tony's leaving Niger.

If you’ve come to this extra first, head over to the main episode 64 to hear the rest of my conversation with Tony Rinaudo AM (link below).

Title slide: Halidou, from the village of Gangara, sitting among the trees (pic: Tony Rinaudo).

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You can listen to the full conversation with Tony in the main episode 64 - The Forest Maker: And the largest positive environmental transformation in Africa, with Tony Rinaudo AM.

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Pre-roll music: Heartland Rebel, by Steven Beddall (sourced from Artlist).

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