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In this episode, Mary O'Carroll reunites with Anne Kerwin Payne of Kerwin Associates to dig into one of the most misunderstood yet high-stakes roles in legal: in-house legal operations.
If you're a GC hiring for legal ops—or a candidate trying to land that elusive "head of legal ops" title—this one's for you. Anne brings decades of legal recruiting insight, a front-row seat to the evolution of the legal ops role, and a refreshingly candid take on what works (and what definitely doesn't).
In this episode:
Whether you're trying to land your first legal ops role, move up the ladder, or finally hire the right partner for your legal team—this episode lays it all out. Mary and Anne cut through the noise with practical guidance and stories that'll help you make smarter moves in a role that's only getting more critical.
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In this episode, Mary O'Carroll reunites with Anne Kerwin Payne of Kerwin Associates to dig into one of the most misunderstood yet high-stakes roles in legal: in-house legal operations.
If you're a GC hiring for legal ops—or a candidate trying to land that elusive "head of legal ops" title—this one's for you. Anne brings decades of legal recruiting insight, a front-row seat to the evolution of the legal ops role, and a refreshingly candid take on what works (and what definitely doesn't).
In this episode:
Whether you're trying to land your first legal ops role, move up the ladder, or finally hire the right partner for your legal team—this episode lays it all out. Mary and Anne cut through the noise with practical guidance and stories that'll help you make smarter moves in a role that's only getting more critical.
Follow Mary on LinkedIn
Rate and review on Apple Podcasts

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