This is an excerpt from episode 80 featuring the last 20 minutes or so of my conversation with award-winning filmmaker and photographer, Nicol Ragland. How does Bill Gates’ recent ‘intervention’ in food systems differ from what we really need? And how are some First Nations people saying ‘no thanks’ to that intervention?

These questions lead our conversation through Nicol’s work with Regenerate Oklahoma, some of her transformative experiences with Indigenous peoples around the world, and what that might mean for re-conceptualising our relationship with land. She goes on to rib me a little on the topic of trust, reveals how she (almost) stood in the recent federal election, and all this culminates with an awesome exchange on the wisdom of elders.

Title slide: B&W shot of the Hadza (pic: Nicol Ragland).

Music:
Faraway Castle, by Rae Howell & Sunwrae.

Find more:
You can hear the rest of our conversation in the main episode, Regenerative Media: What if it’s not about solving but maintaining a connection?
 
You’ll find a selection of Nicol’s spectacular photos on that web page too. 

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