The podcast episode delves into the nuanced world of gender identities, specifically focusing on non-binary and gender fluid identities through a heartfelt panel discussion. Heather, the host, brings together her daughter Gray, her friend Kate, and Autumn Graham to share their experiences and insights. The conversation kicks off with a critical examination of the terminology surrounding gender identity. Autumn uses a creative analogy comparing gender to a numerical spectrum, helping to clarify that non-binary identities exist as part of a broader continuum rather than strict categories. This foundational understanding sets the stage for a deeper exploration of individual experiences and societal perceptions.

Throughout the episode, the panelists recount their personal journeys with gender identity, highlighting the emotional complexities involved in coming out and the varying responses from family and society. Kate shares her experiences as a trans masculine person, discussing how her identity has evolved over time and the importance of creating supportive environments for young people. Gray adds that many individuals struggle with the fear of rejection from their families, particularly in cultures where traditional views on gender are prevalent. This discussion sheds light on the intersection of cultural expectations and personal identity, emphasizing the need for open communication and understanding within families.

The conversation culminates in a powerful reminder that understanding gender identity is an ongoing process for both individuals and their families. The panelists encourage listeners to engage in meaningful dialogues, replete with empathy and curiosity, to foster a sense of security and acceptance. They stress that every person's journey is unique, and as such, the approach to understanding and supporting one another must be tailored to individual experiences. This episode serves as a valuable resource for parents and allies looking to navigate the complexities of gender identity, while also affirming the importance of community and connection in the LGBTQ experience.

Takeaways:

• The importance of understanding that everyone's journey in self-identification is unique and ongoing.
• Parents should create brave spaces for their children to explore their identities safely.
• Listening and supporting without judgment is crucial when someone comes out to you.
• Labels can be helpful, but they should not confine or pigeonhole individuals' identities.
• Every individual's understanding of their gender identity can evolve throughout their lives.
• It's essential to approach conversations about gender and sexuality with curiosity and compassion.

About the Panel:

Autumn Graham - I am Autumn, a non-binary teen who loves to discuss and have a deeper understanding of things, such as the topic of this podcast. I am a naturally curious individual who loves to learn about new things and see them from another perspective. 

Kate Versage - Kate is a proud member of the LGBTQ+ community who specializes in helping other LGBTQ+ individuals and their families process their coming out experiences, navigate their identities, and provide support and resources for their journey through life coaching. Kate has a Masters degree in Mental Health Counseling and Expressive Arts Therapy and devotes her free time helping to educate communities, businesses and organizations on the issues and concerns that face the LGBTQ+ community.

Kate is also a proud mama, Dj and Drag King.

Grace (Gray) Hester - My name is Grace, I also use the name Grayson. My pronouns are she/they/he but I’m comfortable with any. I am 17 years old, and a junior in high school. Acting is my passion, and like most teens, I like hanging out with my friends. 

Hi, I’m Heather Hester, and I’m so glad you’re here!

Receive a free excerpt and reflection guide from my book, Parenting with Pride.

Influence the Parenting with Pride companion journal content. Survey here.

Find out what kind of ally you are!

Share More Human. More Kind. Please subscribe, rate, and review!

Connect [email protected]

Join the Kind Space on Patreon

Leave a message or voicemail

Book a call!

Watch on YouTube

Listen to *NEW* episodes every Tuesday and Friday!

At the heart of my work is a deep commitment to compassion, authenticity, and transformative allyship, especially for those navigating the complexities of parenting LGBTQ+ kids. Through this podcast, speaking, my writing, and the spaces I create, I help people unlearn bias, embrace their full humanity, and foster courageous, compassionate connection.

If you’re in the thick of parenting, allyship, or pioneering a way to lead with love and kindness, I’m here with true, messy, and heart-warming stories, real tools, and grounding support to help you move from fear to fierce, informed action.

Whether you’re listening in, working with me directly, or quietly taking it all in—I see you. And I’m so glad you’re part of this journey.

More Human. More Kind. formerly Just Breathe: Parenting Your LGBTQ Teen explores connection, courage, and community for every concerned parent, mom, or ally navigating fear, grief, and bigotry with hope, resilience, and empathy. Through open-minded education, inclusive parenting guidance, and advocacy for mental health and safety, we support LGBTQ youth and stand for human rights and social justice. More Human. More Kind. empowers listeners to shift their mindset, embrace activism and allyship, and lead with kindness, healing, and purpose.

This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis:

Blubrry - https://create.blubrry.com/resources/about-blubrry/privacy-policy