Barry and James are joined by Brant Hansen to talk about how bad we really are - even though we're all convinced we're basically good - and how that realization leads to a more enjoyable and fruitful life. It's the most fun you'll have getting over yourself.

Brant's brilliant book, The Truth About Us (Barry's commendation: "I think it's the most convincing account of human depravity I've ever read. And it's certainly funnier than Calvin.")
Brant And Sherri's Oddcast

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Our theme music is by Roger Taylor and his latest album is The Rubicon Moment. Production and incidental music by Cooper & Cary.

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