This is an excerpt from episode 85 featuring the last 20 minutes or so of my conversation with Cathy McGowan. We pick things up with the passage that became the opener in the main episode. It heralds a powerful sequence from Cathy, and an insight into what’s bubbling up around the country in the lead up to the next federal election.

We then go into how things worked for her, and other increasingly successful independents, on the ground – the practical realities, the value set, and the networks of support that make it all possible. We draw to a close with more of the vision, strategy and supportive infrastructure being developed, to get more community-minded independents elected. Oh, and an express request from Cathy to share this podcast.

Title slide: The cover to Cathy’s book.

Music:
Faraway Castle, by Rae Howel and Sunwrae.

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You can hear the rest of our conversation in the main episode, ‘Politics That Works: A proven way becoming a powerful movement’. 

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Pre-roll music: Heartland Rebel, by Steven Beddall (sourced from Artlist).

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