Knowing Faith

#85 – Formless and Void with Nancy Guthrie


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Jen Wilkin, JT English, and Kyle Worley are joined by author, teacher, speaker, podcaster: Nancy Guthrie to discuss Genesis 1:2.

Questions Covered in This Episode:

  • What does it mean to start with God created the heavens and the earth? What is the heavens and earth?
  • Genesis 1:2, what are we to learn studying this verse?
  • What does “formless and void” mean?
  • How does this verse set up meta themes that echo throughout scripture? 

Helpful Definitions:

  • Tohu VaVohu: Hebrew term found in Genesis 1:2 for formless and void.
  • Aseity: God is a se, or has aseity: He is self-existent and self-sufficient.

Guest Bio:

Nancy Guthrie is the host of “Help me Teach the Bible” podcast, a regular contributor at the Gospel Coalition, and is the author of many books including: The Seeing Jesus in the OT Series, Even Better than Eden, Saints and Scoundrels in the Story of Jesus, and the brand new: God does his best work with Empty.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

  • Genesis 1:2, Colossians 1:15-16, Habakkuk 2:14, Genesis 1:27-30, Ezekiel 34-36, John 1, Ephesians 2
  • Seeing Jesus in the Old Testament Series by Nancy Guthrie
  • Help me Teach the Bible Podcast
  • “The Beatitudes” by Arthur W. Pink

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