James and Barry have words about a controversial infographic on "whiteness". They also talk about the sin of self-reliance, the danger of confusing one's culture with the gospel, and Vanilla Ice.

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The "whiteness" infographic under discussion, since withdrawn by the Smithsonian.
James' Joshua For Kids YouTube films.

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