In this chat we get to meet Swedish Italo-disco duo, Sally Shapiro. Made up of producer Johan Ageborn and singer Sally Shapiro (which is a pseudonym for the anonymous woman behind the mic, as well as the band name), the elusive duo just put out a new album, Ready to Live a Lie, and has been operating mostly in anonymity since their beginning back in the 2000s, with the release of the big first single "I'll Be By Your Side". While Johan is certainly the more public persona, Sally herself has retained her near-totally obsucred identity, a la Burial, since the start. In this chat, we talk about the brand new record - including the production, writing, and inspirations behind it - as well as some band history, including why they chose to go the anonymous route in the first place, and how they hold onto that in the ever-increasingly digital era. They barely do any interviews (especially Sally), so I was very grateful they came on. Thank you for listening.