This is an excerpt from episode 96 featuring the last 25 minutes or so of my conversation with the legendary environmentalist, activist, entrepreneur and author, Paul Hawken, plus a brilliant preview performance of The Regeneration Song!

This really felt like a crescendo of sorts, as we neared the end of a conversation that delved deep over a few hours. The main episode that went out Monday is an edited version. The middle hour or so will be out next, as a special Extra this Monday. For now, if you want to start with a snapshot, or would just like to hear the end again (like I did), this excerpt is for you.

We pick up our conversation where Paul comments on stories being the only thing that change us. We go on to talk about the incredible online tools that have launched with the book, some brilliant stories where politics is being transformed, and what that and other stories in Regeneration tell us about how big change happens via the small. We all count in this.

We go out with why Paul feels optimistic about what could be a ‘shocking’ few years ahead.

Title slide: Paul Hawken (supplied).

Music:
The System, by the Public Opinion Afro Orchestra.

Preview Performance of We Can Change the World (The Regeneration Song), by AY Young & Jonathan Russell of The Head & The Heart.

Find more:
You can hear the rest of our conversation in the main episode (with a series of links in the show notes), ‘Regeneration: Ending the climate crisis in one generation’.

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Pre-roll music: Heartland Rebel, by Steven Beddall (sourced from Artlist).

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