In this powerful and wide-ranging conversation, Rosie explores the concept of power — specifically, how sex can quietly shift from covenantal connection to a method of self-regulation… and ultimately become leverage inside relationships and culture.

What happens when intimacy stops being mutual self-giving and becomes stress relief?
What happens when appetite governs us instead of character?
And what happens to a society when that shift occurs at scale?

This episode traces that pattern across history — and brings it right into our modern digital moment.

Regulation vs. Covenant

Rosie introduces the concept of the “regulation-ship.”

When sex becomes the way we regulate our internal world —
to soothe stress, manage anxiety, or stabilize emotion —
it slowly reshapes intimacy itself.

Instead of two people building a relationship rooted in covenant, commitment, and mutual self-gift, intimacy becomes organized around relief.

And relief is powerful.

When relief becomes central, sex becomes leverage.

Historical Patterns of Desire & Power

This is not a new story.

Rosie draws on:

Augustine of Hippo and his concept of libido dominandi — the lust to dominate.

Thomas Aquinas, who warned that unchecked desire narrows our moral vision and clouds judgment.

Throughout history, thinkers have understood that appetite, when ungoverned, does not simply satisfy — it reshapes perception.

Whatever governs desire, governs the person.
And when this happens collectively, it reshapes nations.

Ancient Rome: From Discipline to Indulgence

Rome did not collapse overnight.

It shifted.

From civic discipline and family order
to indulgence and entitlement.

As sexual boundaries loosened and family structures weakened, leaders attempted moral reforms — but virtue cannot be legislated back once appetite has become expectation.

When restraint fades, authority eventually fills the vacuum.

French Revolution: The Erosion of Restraint

Changing ideas about authority, restraint, and moral order weakened France long before the revolution exploded.

When crisis came, society lacked shared foundations.

What followed was chaos — and then a desperate demand for clarity and control.

Revolutions often promise freedom.
They frequently end in enforcement.

Weimar Germany: Permissiveness Amid Instability

Berlin in the 1920s became synonymous with sexual experimentation and nightlife culture.

But underneath the permissiveness was anxiety, fragmentation, and economic instability.

When social bonds weaken and meaning erodes, people often seek relief.

Relief feels like freedom.
But relief cannot stabilize a culture.

Soviet Union: The “Glass of Water” Theory

Early Bolshevik thinkers promoted the idea that sexual expression should be as simple and consequence-free as drinking a glass of water.

The traditional family was viewed as a competing loyalty to the state.

The result?

Rapid social unraveling.

Eventually, under Joseph Stalin, family structures were re-enforced from above — not through virtue, but through authority.

When internal restraint collapses, external control increases.

The Modern Digital Age: Pornography as Efficient Power

Today, pornography is arguably the most efficient form of libido dominandi ever created.

Instant.
Private.
Algorithmically amplified.

For the first time in human history, adolescents have unlimited access to sexual imagery without relational cost.

The consequences are emerging in:

Increased anxiety and fragmentation

Altered relational expectations

Growing governmental interest in digital regulation and surveillance

When appetite scales digitally, governance follows.

Central Questions from This Episode

• What ultimately shapes society — restraint or appetite?
• What are we willing to trade for stability?
• When children are at risk, how much authority are we willing to grant in exchange for protection?
• How do we reclaim intimacy from becoming a regulation-ship?

Final Encouragement

Rosie closes with this challenge:

True freedom is not the absence of restraint. It is self-government anchored in truth.

Healthy relationships are built on covenant, not coping.
On mutual self-gift, not mutual regulation.

In a culture governed by appetite, choosing discipline, character, and clarity becomes an act of quiet resistance.

Take heart. Stay curious. And keep leaning into the One who holds you steady.