Mary Payne talks with podcasting friends, Patrick and Ruby of Bad TV. We cover the Karen Read trial (MP and Ruby are experts), Pat's time in a recording studio with some famous rappers (some jailed and some currently on trial), Pat's hot takes on Next Gen NYC and of course, all our feelings on Love Hotel, the Valley and RHOA. Follow Pat, Dylan and Ruby @badtvpodcast

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