A Beautiful Life with Elizabeth Molina podcast

May 26, 2021 Ep. 14 - Strength & Beauty with Dr. John Jaquish

Speaker1: [00:00:00] Hello, my beautiful people, you know, it is Humpday because I am here talking to you and you know that I released these episodes on Wednesday, so excited to be here. And we have another amazing guest because, you know, I read nothing but quality. And his name is Dr. John Jaquish. He is a Wall Street Journal best selling author and an inventor of the most effective bone density building medical device, which has reversed osteoporosis for thousands and created more powerful and fractured resistant athletes. His devices were put into production and has since been placed in over 300 clinics worldwide. Osteogenic loading has now helped over 20000 individuals with their bone health. Dr. Jaquish also quantified the variance between the power capacities from weak to strong wages and weight lifting, which brought him to his second innovation x3. The research indicates that this products build muscle much faster than conventional lifting and does so in less training time, all with the lowest risk of joint injury. Dr. Jaquish is a research professor at Rushmore University, speaks at scientific conferences all over the world, has been featured on many of the top health podcasts, is an editor of multiple medical journals and is a nominee for the National Medal of Science. I am so excited to have him on here because we're going to have some controversial topics that we're going to be discussing, including why not weightlifting and the whole fitness trend and so many more things. Welcome, Dr. Jaquish, a.k.a. Dr. J. How are you today?

Speaker2: [00:01:48] I'm super. Thanks for having me, Elizabeth.

Speaker1: [00:01:51] I mean, thank you for being here. I mean, you know, I'm going to put you on the spot on the podcast. I don't normally do this, but I think I'm inspired by you as being my guest to have a little section called Rumor Has It. And so be prepared.

Speaker2: [00:02:07] I will. There's all kinds of crazy rumors going around about me. Most of them are just ludicrous. But I always I enjoy even the ludicrous ones that are very comical.

Speaker1: [00:02:16] Ok, so we're going to we're going to sneak them in there if you let me. So thank you. So I want to start talking about first of all, let's talk about your product. Right. Let's let's talk about what made you disrupt the fitness world. And do you feel like your research and technology and your competitors who use your traditional way of getting lean and building muscle?

Speaker2: [00:02:42] Ok, yes, it's definitely a threat to the old way of getting fit. But let's face it, the old way of getting fit didn't really work for many people. Like, really think about it. The people who, you know, go to a gym three or four times a week and have been doing so for years. Do they look any different? Right, silence, they don't. Yeah, yeah, and in fact, there's there's data on the top leanest one percentile of males in the nation. It's ten point nine percent body fat, basically 11 percent body fat. That's the best one percent. Now, percentage body fat is a wonderful number because it considers muscularity also. So because the more muscular you become, the lower your percentage of body fat will be, so. You have a relatively pathetic number as the top percentile. Like, I really shows you, there's not a lot of fat people out there and there's a reason why it's so coveted, people want to be fit so badly because hardly anyone is. And like, why are we trusting an industry that might have a ninety nine point nine percent failure rate? Wow. Like who really who really is fit looking? Who really has completely visible abdominals and muscularity at the same time, you know, is it one in ten thousand people, maybe one in fifty thousand people? It's just uncommon.

Speaker2: [00:04:18] And so when that is how we define fitness, that's how we define and an admirable physique and we look at the statue from eight hundred years ago of Hercules, that's that's in I'm thinking of a particular one. There are a lot of statues of Hercules, particular kind of famous. He's leaning on like a like a tree branch and he's hung a lion skin over the tree branch. But a hundred years ago, you know, the guy looked absolutely incredible. They didn't even have performance enhancing drugs back then. But it's just so rare as my point that somebody had to sit for that statue to be created. Like there was a guy that looked like that eight hundred years ago. But my point is, it's just so rare and now there's a couple of genetic reasons which can be bypassed and I discussed that in my book, Weightlifting is a waste of time.

Speaker1: [00:05:09] Oh, I need that. I need to get that book because and we're going to get into that book, you know, I don't know. I want to get a signed copy. I'm waiting for the signed copy from conservatives. I get from and then rumor has it, but I'll bring that up. But I'm like excited to get my signed copy. But I want to go back a little bit to this technology that you spoke about. You talk about Hercules, right. Like let's pretend right. Like back in the days, we all know Hercules is known for being super buff and strong and like like you said, no, you know, performance enhancing drugs or medications or supplements, whatever you want to call

Speaker2: [00:05:46] Somebody that's got you, you listen to me talk and don't understand what that means. Somebody had to sit there and sit still while the sculptor created the sculpture.

Speaker1: [00:05:58] Yeah, that's a

Speaker2: [00:05:59] A who look like that. They don't just invent muscles out of their mind. No, because they don't know the anatomy. There's very few anatomy classes eight hundred years ago, but people could sit for a statue, so there had to be a guy like that.

Speaker1: [00:06:13] Yeah. And so I want to kind of touch on nutrition a little bit talking about that and you and your book. Right. Like what are your thoughts on nutrition? Because you said ninety nine point nine percent of the population are not succeeding in that. And so, you know, when you were asking me a question about you said, you know, who do you know that's really fit and who's going to the gym all the time? And I'm thinking, yeah, they're going to the gym all the time. But they're also like meticulously counting their calories, their macros, their protein.

Speaker2: [00:06:46] They still don't look any different, do they?

Speaker1: [00:06:48] Not by that much. So let's talk about that. I want to hear your thoughts on these fad diets, these new diets that we know that Hercules was definitely not doing.

Speaker2: [00:07:00] Primarily what I eat is red meat. Now, I also it's all about the quality protein when it comes to building muscle. Now, the two greatest drivers of long life or high levels of muscularity and low levels of body fat. So those are the two things I'm kind of best at. Having a low level of body fat and a high level of muscularity now, how does that happen? The easiest well, you have to have a lot of dietary protein and it has to be of quality. So, like, vegetable protein is only nine percent and that's like nine to four percent usable by the body. So you can you can have. Whatever, one hundred grams, but it really only counts like nine grams, so that would be like a pound and a half of broccoli will give you nine grams of use, but you need one gram per pound of body weight. Not a lot of people weigh nine pounds, so especially adults. So you can't have vegetable sauces and get anywhere. In fact, you're losing Moscow muscle the whole time. You're like vegan or vegetarian. So that's why there's weight loss also. Yeah, the losing body fat is a record deficit, but they're also losing muscle very rapidly. And that contributes to a lot of chronic conditions and early death. So, you know, does it do some good things for you going vegan or vegetarian? Yeah. Yeah, it does. It cuts a lot of processed food out, and that's good. But you can cut processed food out and still have animal protein or diet. So, yeah, that's that's primarily where I am. I did create a product that wasn't specifically for vegans, it was for everybody, but a lot of people.

Speaker2: [00:08:49] And they found a one gram per pound of body weight like I weighed 240 pounds. So 240 grams of protein is like two and a half pounds of steak. And I eat one meal a day because I want to fast and benefit also. So when you sit down for one meal and try and eat two and a half pounds of steak that lasts like half a pound, you don't love it. Wow, it's like work, is it, and you don't feel good afterward, you know, so your girlfriend wants to cuddle with you and you're like, now I'm going to have any Digest's. Let me just lay here. And so that just wasn't it wasn't great. So I worked with a with a group who had engineered a cancer treatment. That that was a very. Usable, essential amino acid product and most essential amino acid products are about as usable by the body as sand. Unfortunately, yeah, there may be the amino acids and everything weren't created correctly. They weren't created with fermentation. Basically, we're supposed to eat rotting stuff. And obviously, for sanitation reasons, we don't, right? So what what this is, is gives us the benefits of that rotting material fermentation without the taste and it's clean and there's nothing that will give you an infection or anything. Yeah. And so it's called Vortigern. So so I take about two two hundred grams of protein and protein value. Wow. I mean, I literally have to eat like a half pound steak and I'm good,

Speaker1: [00:10:29] And now you can cuddle with your girlfriend.

Speaker2: [00:10:32] Yes, very

Speaker1: [00:10:33] Good. So everyone everyone wins here.

Speaker2: [00:10:36] Everyone wins. Yeah, exactly. Bet my girlfriend

Speaker1: [00:10:39] Did. She's so sweet. No, no, no. So, yeah, for those guys don't know like I do know his girlfriend. She's so sweet. I did meet her try. We're trying to get her on here but she's doing other activities right now. Working. But she is the sweetest person I've met so far, so I love her. She's amazing. Hi, Jessa waving to her. So when she sees this, we're thinking about her. So let's let's call it let's take it down a notch. So. So you don't recommend. So when people talk about becoming vegan or vegetarian or raw. Right. Like they not only do it because of the benefits of maybe losing weight or taking out those processed foods, but also the impact on the environment. Right. And like all these foreign foods, because not all protein is made equal. Right. Let's let's be honest about that. Right. Like a grass fed grass finished cow beef is not the same as a industrial commercialized, you know, cornfed, right. Exactly. Cow who is fed with hormones and antibiotics and you name it. So let's talk about that a little bit. I would love for you to shed some light on what your intake is on the people who are concerned with carbon footprint and saving

Speaker2: [00:11:53] Animals, the carbon footprint idea or the methane. That's so there were twice as many bison in the United States before Europeans migrated here than there are cow. So where was all the methane and global warming back then? Now, is methane created from grass? Yeah, and if the grass died just seasonally and then came back the next spring, rotting material, dead plants leaves a hole in the ground from trees that creates methane to. Like the same amount, so whether the cow is eating it or just sits there, it's methane equals methane, it's the same thing. So a lot of this is just a gross misunderstanding of what methane is. Also manmade methane number one cause is the medical industry. Like, I think that's like 80 or something, percent of the methane created in the Western world is created by making pharmaceuticals. So I think it's maybe like one or two percent come from cows. So first of all, the greenhouse gases are natural, they come out of volcanoes, they come out of plants, uh, the kind of rotting material, we're not gonna do anything about that. Like, unless you want to cut down every tree, then we'll die, we're all die for another reason. So every animal that saving the planet, then selling it back. So there's no sustainability argument was. A false narrative created by Vegan's and Seventh Day Adventists by Seventh Day Adventists, that's part of the religious mandate that they convert everybody to being vegan, hereditary.

Speaker2: [00:13:35] And so, yeah, they're doing their religious work. So, I mean, I guess I guess good for them until they start lying in the press about things like this. And then, you know, that just becomes annoying. And also then these kind of issues get brought up in Congress and then people are voting on taxes, on food and. Different things they don't understand, like people in Congress have no understanding yet, they want to jump in the middle of it because it's political, because people care. So it's funny situation, pretty alarming. And also there's political correctness. So we want to be nice to animals. Now, here's a statistic. Seven billion animals are destroyed every year for the sake of vegetable farming. So you're actually growing vegetables kills just as many or more animals as eating animals. And the reason is how many gophers do you need to kill him out of your field? Poisoned by the thousands of birds, poisoned by the thousands, and then, of course, other animals eat dead birds and then they die to. And then, dear, if a deer gets in a vineyard like I, I went to high school in the Napa Valley, I watched deer jump in the vineyards immediately get shot. You can't get it. You can't get a deer to walk out the front gate. There's dumbest cockroaches. They won't ever understand that. You just shoot them. And so they did. I saw a deer shot all the time.

Speaker1: [00:15:11] Yeah, I do know that's a bummer.

Speaker2: [00:15:14] Like, wow. Yeah, I guess the deer just went the wrong place. They should have gone somewhere else to eat, but, um. Yeah, that's just that's just part of it. But also from a broader perspective and this is what everybody should keep in mind, any species that's growing is taking resources away from another species. So this isn't just true of humans. If more snakes show up, they eat more mice. They eat so many mice that. There's lower and lower population of mice in a given area, so they're taking resources because they're expanding population, that is a way of balancing itself out later on. But as long as we have an expanding population, we're going to take resources from something. No, no way around it. And so, I mean, the joke is you really want to help the planet just kill yourself. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean, it's obviously a bad joke with science like this. Like, we're people. We take up resources. There's no way that we're not going to take up resources no matter what we do. So it's an acre garden that we have to kill all kinds of animals to stay out over eating the food we intend to eat. What are we really doing? Anything.

Speaker1: [00:16:31] Right. Right. And I also want all the animals. Yeah, no. And I want it. Exactly. I wanted to clarify, like I know you said earlier about the deer to shoot him. And I wanted to just clarify for reference that if you like, read your state laws and you see that, you know, farmers like a peach or orchard could potentially is allowed to, by law, kill a squirrel or anything that comes to eat the they are allowed to. And like this is the kind of stuff that we don't talk about, like the almond farms, the peach farms, the apple farms, all the vegetable farms they are allowed to. And they do kill every single thing that comes in there from the Buber's from the moles to the foxes to the ducks, to the birds, to the squirrels. And and they are allowed to because I, I randomly like I went to a friend's house in Jersey and the guy was just shooting squirrels, unfortunately. And we were like, what can we do about this? And we called and we and the local police officer, you know, whatever he said that he has an apple tree and he has every right to defend the fruits from his property. And if that meant Menta to do that, he was able to. And I was just so shocked. I'm like, it's not enough. It's not a real farm. But technically, he's protected and they were protecting him. So I do want to bring that up. When you when you said that, it's not like, yeah, shoot the deer. That's not what you meant. You meant like that to their right. And that's what they do. Yeah. We're just going

Speaker2: [00:18:00] To talk about the losers in. You're right to do everything to keep the grapes from ever shown up the bite off every leaf. Wild boar are typically shot from helicopters because they come near farms and tear up the ground. So, yeah, just

Speaker1: [00:18:19] Just the other side,

Speaker2: [00:18:20] Weapons from a helicopter using very selected narrative that the press likes to hang on to, it's like saving animals is good and very simplified, like like people seem to want all of their health and lifestyle advice boiled down to like a mean like a half a sentence. Yeah. And like, these issues are just not so simple. It's not like vegetable good, meat bad, right? You know, you you eat that way, you'll die of malnutrition. You get no vitamin B 12, which is absolutely essential for life. So, you know, like you can do that.

Speaker1: [00:19:03] Hey, Dad, I have a story, actually. I mean, I didn't die, but I was really sick for a long time and I didn't know what was wrong with me. Doctors didn't know what was wrong with me. I was under every experimental medication you can probably think of. It was like Celiac, Crohn's, IBS. And there was like, could it be like my grandmother had pancreatic cancer and she had survived that. She went to Peru, she killed herself. They gave her a six to eight months to live. And I think it's already maybe 15 years. And she's still here kicking and screaming. So they thought maybe this is what it looks like, the precursor because they precursor cells, they didn't know what was wrong with me. So they put me on these diets first. It was vegan because they were trying to rule things out. And then this is by my doctor, right. Vegan. And then I became vegetarian first. Then it went to vegan and then it became Rovi again. And because it was such a big shift in my body, I had a massive gallbladder attack and my gallbladder was removed, not because it had stones, not because I was unhealthy, but because it was such a shock for my system. So today I do eat animal protein, but I'm mindful of the protein that I eat. I don't eat a lot of it because it's so hard to process the protein without a gallbladder. That's just the reality of it. But I was told by the doctor afterwards that a lot of times people go into these diets so quickly that their body does go into shock and it can cause different organs to fail. And I'm not trying to I hate like I don't like to make people fearful. I'm a big advocate for having root vegetables. I love I happen to love vegetables.

Speaker2: [00:20:47] That's just

Speaker1: [00:20:48] It's. Yeah, I'm just sharing like what my experience. So I just wanted to share that on, you know, diet and like what your opinion was on that.

Speaker2: [00:20:57] I guess a lot of me. No, I don't go to vegans and complain that they should stop being like, you know, I, I in fact, I created a product where they can actually get high quality protein and continue to be vegan. So the bacterial fermentation product. It's there's no meat involved in the creation of that, so it's vegan friendly, amazing. So yeah. Yeah. So I'd rather help them, but. At all, I'm going to be honest, scientifically, it's just there's no case for it, it's it's a bad idea and that ultimately lead to just a poor outcome. But it takes people a lot of years before a lot of these symptoms catch up with them, like the teeth falling out because you have no V12 like I've seen vegan's where you bite into something and the truth will come out like I'm talking like people in their 20s because they've been vegan for ten years. So the really bad symptoms start after seven years because initially a lot of people went and tried this and they're on a caloric deficit and they lost a bunch of body fat because you can't eat enough vegetables to even cover, like what your body needs from basic perspectives. So you drop a bunch of weight and people think thin is healthy. I mean, lean is healthy, thin is maybe a little bit healthier, depending on where you're coming from, but, you know, that also might be dying. So let's keep that in mind, yeah, because there's a lot of dysfunction, so cut weight like cancer make you lose weight, that doesn't mean it's a good thing. Another thing. Like like the vegan research is typically paid for by Nabisco, Kraft packaged food companies they call big foods a big food industry, and then they would love for everybody to be a vegan because they know vegans aren't eating kale. Most of the time they're eating cookies and cake because it's convenient if it's like it's not it's not a meat product. Right.

Speaker1: [00:23:05] I mean, to be fair, there are different kinds of vegans, right? Like there's like the junky vegans who eat, like all the, um, I don't want to just junk food that, you know, just as vegan. And then there are the ones that are more conscious about the kind of food. Is it from a biodynamic farm? How is it raised? Like how is it grown? Is it like coming from a is the soil biodiversity and all this stuff? So like, I just want to put that out there. I'm not bashing and neither is Dr. J. We're not bashing anyone, just kind of talking about these kinds of things. But Dr. J. I want to I thought this is a great Segway talking about gains, right. Like muscle gains and talking about body fat. Can you explain how using your technology helps to gain more in your goal without impacting your body and like low impact and how it doesn't cause any joint issues,

Speaker2: [00:23:58] So it lets you train heavier? That's the easiest way to explain it. Like you train heavier than you would in a gym. But it's also safer because when it comes to that point where the joint is exposed to potential injury, you get an offload moment where the weight goes way down when the joint is at risk and the weight goes way up when the muscle is fully engaged. So you go to a much deeper level of fatigue, weight training with a heavier weight. And everybody that knows anything about strength training, however you go, the more you grow. So really straightforward uses very heavy latex resistance, but there's also an Olympic bar to protect your wrists that's right here. You can see as I rotate the bar, this always stays parallel with the ground, and that's to keep your wrists neutral and keep your small bones in the wrists from being broken. And we have an equivalent platform we stand on that is to protect the small bones in the ankles as people who just do band training, all they're doing is injuring the wrists and ankles. Oh yeah. Because or they're training so light. It's doing nothing.

Speaker1: [00:25:08] Wow. OK, and what was the process of creating these products, how did you crack this code? Like please share with us the back story?

Speaker2: [00:25:17] I'm not really part of the fitness industry. I never was like I mean, the fact that I sell something that has talking points that are fitness, I see the fitness industry is just a complete failure. No joke. Ignoring science for 50 years, just like everything like like the idea the cardio helps you lose weight. No. Doesn't. Does the opposite, it protects your body fat and gets rid of muscle, so it gives you the opposite. We think. So know, I see people like on treadmills and, you know, just wasting their time getting worse. Wow. I come from the medical device industry. I developed a medical device to reverse osteoporosis a little over 10 years ago. And that's been outrageously successful when I looked at bone and how to figure out how to treat bone and make it grow very rapidly after I figured that out and produce a product launch that prior to the clinical trials of that product, I realized I had gathered data on loading of the body that would completely negate the existing fitness industry or strength strength training industry. Now. If you look at what's the difference between cardio equipment and strength, equipment, cardio, what we call cardio is just really shitty strength training. That doesn't work, doesn't make it stronger, your body doesn't know the difference between a treadmill and a squat rack like you're contracting your lower extremities muscles, your long johns. But he knows the difference in how heavy you're going. Because that's what fatigues the muscle.

Speaker2: [00:26:57] So all you're now, you're fatiguing your cardiovascular system during either. And it just so happens that there's more than one hundred studies that show that fatigue in your cardiovascular system with weights. Will give you as much cardiovascular benefit or more then cardiovascular training, so cardiovascular training, as we call it, like I said, there's really no such thing. You don't get any stronger. You actually get weaker because it regulates cortisol and cortisol cannibalizes muscle. You protect your body fat. So you stay fatter longer and you don't get as good of an effect or an equal effect to strength training. So why don't you just do strength training? Well, like I said, the answer is so obvious now, if you're training to be a marathon runner, you got no choice. You have to run marathons. But a marathon runner, their biochemistry by secreting cortisol is trying to get rid of muscle as fast as possible. So they're losing muscle. And this is like this mythical idea that you can be a, quote, well-rounded athlete and have cardiovascular endurance by doing endurance training. And be very muscular. Now, those are two conflicting goals, you're not going to get a Formula One car to have 40 miles to the gallon like they're conflicting goals, conserving fuel and going fast, conflicting goals. So so now I have great cardiovascular endurance, I can do a lot of work in a short period of time. But because of my level of musculature, like I said, I'm six foot six feet tall, about seven percent body fat and.

Speaker2: [00:28:46] Two hundred forty pounds, so when I sprint up a flight of stairs, maybe two flights of stairs, I'm a little out of breath. But a skinny guy, the way one hundred pounds, one hundred pounds less me. He doesn't he's not out of breath when he sprints up the two flights of stairs to the common. The ignorant comment that many make is all strength athletes have poor cardiovascular endurance. No, they don't, because my legs may be five times the size of his legs. So when my quadriceps are asking my heart for blood, it's a lot more blood that's got a pump in there, that's a far more powerful engine. So in essence, I'm driving a V12 and that guy is driving like a four cylinder. So right wing engine, a weak engine doesn't draw a lot of fuel. And so, you know, just because I'm more powerful and I'm designed to do a lot of work in a short period of time, you know, I try and do work in a long period of time while I don't have the engine for that. Like. Which is why, again, a cardiovascular athlete has very little muscle mass because the biochemistry is forcing them to have very little muscle mass. So this whole, like, endurance thing in cardiovascular health, if your idea is to have a healthy heart through strength training, if you want to run marathons, obviously you got to do a marathon type training for you.

Speaker1: [00:30:14] Guys like that are listening and driving. And, you know, just listening to us talk to an audio, we are also video recording this so you can actually see Dr. J. He doesn't work out, but he's he's at seven, what, seven percent body fat. And he looks

Speaker2: [00:30:28] Like, oh, man, I work out with X.

Speaker1: [00:30:31] Well, let me let me take that back. He's not from the business world. He's not lifting weights. He's not measuring his macros and doing all these kinds of things. He is literally following his formula. So I invite all of you guys to come and see this because I need to go and start doing this kind of training, hopefully soon, or I'll have, like, the arms that we spoke about before with you and your girlfriend. Know, this is very interesting stuff. And, you know, I want to just take it back a little bit. I know that you first started in the space of how to repair or how to grow or you have to help me out with the lingo here for osteoporosis because of your mother, am I correct?

Speaker2: [00:31:13] Yeah. Yeah, I was all inspired by my mother. Yes, she had osteoporosis. I wanted to figure out how to treat it. She was unwilling to take any of the medications because of the side effects. And I don't really blame her. But I said, well, you don't want to take any medications. I might be able to figure this out. Now, I came from a very fresh perspective. This was even before I did my Ph.D.. So I just my experience is more like I just want to learn how to author papers academically because that's a skill like, you know, you don't just like you read a research paper. There's a reason most people can't read them because it's a lot of statistics, a lot of information condensed. I know nobody feels like they're condensed because a lot of times are 20 pages, but that could have been two thousand pages of forms. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it's a lot of information condensed in an academic manner and I wanted to really be able to do that. Everyone has had the biochemical approach to a lot of these physical medicine dysfunctions. And I'm like, well, deconditioning of a bone. Is osteoporosis? Well, you can deconditioned it, you can recondition it right right now and everybody kind of look at me like, oh, I suppose I got seems crazy, but there is research there on like it was gymnastics. The gymnastics research really got me that. That was the key moment where I, I found the right research. I looked at the rate at which people were hitting the ground and they hit the ground so hard, sometimes ten times their body weight, incredible muscle density, but bone density as well. So the bone I was I was looking at. So I just thought, OK, like, I'm not going to tell my mother to do gymnastics, you know, in her 70s, but I can build a high impact emulation device. And that's what I did. And that's what's at the osteo strong locations.

Speaker1: [00:33:14] Wow. Amazing. And I wanted everyone to hear because a lot of times we think of like, why would somebody like this what is the goal here? Like, if you're just trying to, you know, like if you can you flex a muscle for us? I hate to make you do this, but like, there's a lot of muscle there, like hardly any body fat. And so, like, you would think that he did this because he just wanted to look good. I'd figure that crack that code. But the story behind where this all started was the love for his mother and to help her. And I'm assuming that she's doing well today. Right?

Speaker2: [00:33:46] Right. Yeah.

Speaker1: [00:33:47] Yeah. So amazing. So this is what you call the love of a son. And it's beautiful because the company has grown. And I want to talk a little bit about some rumors that I heard. I I've seen Tom Brady doing the X three. Yeah. And he shrugging your shoulders, but I've seen it. So, like, you can't you cannot not talk about it. And so.

Speaker2: [00:34:14] Yeah, yeah, I could definitely not talk about that. But I, I Peyton, I know that I will say I just finished filming a video series with Terrell Owens, who is another one of the greatest football players of all time, and also a much stronger guy, Tom Brady. So he's he's an excellent user and he uses it right. Which I find very pleasant. When I see videos, I see videos of people using it wrong. It's like, dammit, OK, it's just another another dipshit. You couldn't take fifteen minutes to watch the instructional videos and they're just making up their own exercises and they're going super fast, which doesn't really do anything. Speed training is OK if you're. A pitcher in baseball, but what we're teaching is not sports specific, it's generalized, it's generalized for muscular size, muscular power and muscular endurance and have also you can profoundly have all three and there's synergistic. So, you know, the sports specific stuff. I leave that to the to the trainers and sports. Like, for example, like the book got an endorsement from the Miami Heat and they actually let me use their brand. And, you know, in describing, you know, who's who's endorsing this book. And they almost never do that now. And so, yeah, they're very protective of the brand, obviously, because they just believe in the technology and they start lifting weights and they use X three. Now, what's all them was? Use X three, four strength, power and muscular endurance. But you still got to do all your other drills. Will there be any conflict between strength training and drills? Maybe a little maybe we'll get a little less growth in certain areas and certain muscles are a little overworked or whatever, but.

Speaker2: [00:36:13] You've got to do your drills because being a basketball player isn't just about being strong, it's about having balance. It's about regaining balance quickly. When somebody bumps into you, it's part of the game. So, yeah, they still do all that and so, um, and so I'm working with Terrell Owens and, uh, six other NFL players, obviously retired. He's a Hall of Famer. Yeah. And these guys, they love X three. I especially care for the NFL, the NBA, too, but mostly for technical reasons. The NBA, because they're so tall, a joint injury is much worse on a tall guy that it isn't a shorter guy because there's more leverage on the joint. They can they will feel more pain through that joint for the rest of their lives. You got be very delicate with a joint tall person when it comes to the NFL. Um, I see, um, the day they signed their NFL contract, they're told you can't get injured or otherwise you can lose your contract. It's kind of a funny contract. They can say we're going to pay you forty million dollars over the next whatever few years. But if you get injured, you only get paid, prorated for whatever you played and then the rest of that money's gone. Wow. Yeah. So it's a contract. Sorta. Sorta. Also, the drug tested like all the time. So everybody knows when they see a fit and a player. OK, you know that guy, he really did it. And like in Dr. Jake, which is helping him. So like I want to listen to that guy so that I really enjoy the because like also like there's some bodybuilders that really enjoy using ecstasy also.

Speaker1: [00:38:01] My question for you is, since I'm going to now be doing videos, I mean, I'm not an NFL player or anything like that. I'm a good person. So I'm going to be doing the X three soon. And is it like will I will I look like, you know, offense? Not that, you know, you're a man, so that's great. But like, I don't want to look like a bodybuilder. So is that going to cause that, like, I want to be like a politesse like Fiddlin must, you know, obviously body fat going down. It's great. But I'm nervous that I'm going to look like a bodybuilding woman, which is great if you like that. But I just don't happen to, you know, like that. Look for myself.

Speaker2: [00:38:41] Yeah. You're not going to look like that. Yeah. I mean, you seen Caroline. She looks incredibly feminine. Yeah. Yeah. So now she modifies the program a little bit. She doesn't do direct arm work. We just want to make our arms any bigger, but she does the postural movements, the lower extremity movements, uh, she does calves, she really likes how her calves look in heels. Now, they kind of didn't look very developed at all before, but they now. But I see. So a lot of people start strength training. And so then they start they have their hungrier because your body wants nutrients. So instead of eating nutrients, they eat Twinkies. So, yeah, I mean, did you get bigger? No, you got fatter, though. So sorry, it's a habit and I see it happen, you know, it's like, you know, you're not going to grow like, you know, 10 pounds of muscle look like a man. Usually that only happens to women who are chemically enhanced like they're injecting drugs. Oh, OK. Get to that to that look. And again, like I like the way you said it. If it's for you, it's for you.

Speaker1: [00:40:01] It's just not for you. So, you know, you guys heard it here. You're going to see me training. And part of the reason why I also wanted to do this was because, you know, Dr. Jay knows that I've had some, you know, not coronations and a lot of pain. And, you know, he said, like, this could potentially help you. So I am excited about this, but I want to talk about another rumor. Can you handle it?

Speaker2: [00:40:28] I can handle.

Speaker1: [00:40:29] Ok, so I heard a little birdie said to me that NASA published the paper, not a birdie, but it's kind of kind of public knowledge.

Speaker2: [00:40:40] It's public knowledge. It's just, you know, it was published in a scientific journal. And there's not that many people in the world that even know how to read those kind of things. But you know what? I will read you a quote from the paper. Let's do it. Yeah, it was a really, really powerful statement they made, but they're truly looking. What I'm doing and changing resistances for different ranges of emotion. As a way to manage the health of astronauts, because without a gravitational field, the body just starts coming apart. Yeah, like like there's two things that are like from it, from a technical standpoint. And obviously, we put a we put an unmanned vehicle on on on Mars already. So the challenge is to get a human to Mars. Will. Little robots with wheels, they do fine with radiation exposure and now exercise. But humans die. So what we need is now the shield from the radiation, like we know how to do that, but what we're going to have to ultimately do is build a spacecraft in space because that kind of shielding is heavy and the most challenging thing for a launch vehicle. Is how much weight, isn't it, the conclusion of the paper says if the exercise apparatus could be condensed to the size of a shoe box to meet the weight and volume restrictions imposed by NASA, it could potentially serve as a countermeasure for bone and strength loss on exploration vehicles.

Speaker2: [00:42:21] Now, exploration, they mean not the moon, right? I mean Mars. So. Yeah, we can we can pull this off and this is exciting. It's a great study and they used bone formation, blood markers, which are highly accurate, unlike the standard for testing bone density, which is a dual x ray. X rays, just a picture of bone and then use software so the picture can determine how dense or porous the bone is. Well, it's a picture analysis. So is it accurate? Not really right now. One of the developers of DEXA had a drink with me at a conference and he said it's like the worst measure in medicine, except it's the best we've got for bond. And in fact, it's considered excluded for analysis. If the same technician didn't run your before and after, you know that that says that there's like an art to lining up the bounding box on the bone, which is what they have to do. They have to look at your hip jobi from a macro perspective and get the box just in the right place. Well one technician doesn't like this, the other doesn't like this. So it's different numbers.

Speaker1: [00:43:37] And so, so if this device may or may not already be in production or whatever, so does this mean that like we can potentially get like maybe like you could do like travel sizes of this. Like I know I'm maybe wishing to fast

Speaker2: [00:43:52] Track says,

Speaker1: [00:43:53] Ok, well, even even smaller, you know. Like how much smaller.

Speaker2: [00:43:57] Well, OK, so like there's what NASA needs and then there's what the rest of us.

Speaker1: [00:44:02] Ok, five.

Speaker2: [00:44:03] True. Yeah. And also keep in mind from a material science perspective, a lot of the forces. That are occurring. Don't need to be engineered in exactly the same way for Earth because there's no gravity. So, you know, that might be different calls for flexibility, there might be. Some portions of latex, portions of nylon, portions of Cavaleiro, portions of, uh, you know, like a like a liquid carbon fiber.

Speaker1: [00:44:39] Are you ready for the last rumor?

Speaker2: [00:44:40] There is a lot of rumors and I'll say it again. So when I first came out with Yoshio's from devices, I was being criticized by medical doctors. Now, fortunately, once you show them the evidence, because immediately they imagine you don't have the evidence which is showing the evidence and the rationale, they're like, OK, I'll send my patients there. They do a complete 180. So they're never too excited about anything because is it going to work for everybody? No, nothing works for everybody. So they're realistic and they're like, I'll send some of my patients that are relatively ambulatory and relatively pain free because that's those are two requirements are so strong. They can't be like, you know, unable to use your legs and get a benefit in the legs. You've got great the force on your brain. The problem I saw with the fitness industry and I was given warnings by others that my friends who had been kind of crossing the line between medical advice and fitness. Like Venice fans in general, not too bright. And it's yeah, I mean, they just said, like, this is like some of the stupidest people you can find and they cannot absorb science. And, you know, it's like like I used to hear Jordan Peterson talk about the bottom 20th percentile of intelligent people are only qualified to push a map, though. They have a job where they have to drive vehicle or kill people that are intelligent. So I always thought, like, I know where he's getting that. No, he's referencing science. But I never looked up the study. But I thought it seems like a lot of people, 20 percent. And then I found bodybuilding.com and I found all 20 percent of stupid people over that. It was amazing.

Speaker1: [00:46:28] Let's go to the room.

Speaker2: [00:46:31] Ok. Yeah, I'm just I'm just enjoying my haters because the more I get attacked, the business just goes through the roof. No, because more people see the stupid comments and they're like, I got to see this guy. And they expect me to just be like, wrong about everything. And then they look up the studies and they're like, no, this guy is right about everything. I love him.

Speaker1: [00:46:49] Yeah, well, you're also a doctor, right? Right. So that makes you more credible. And then you have your research behind you. But here's the rumor. Here's a rumor right now. I think it's about a rumor. I heard that you may be running for governor of California. Did you almost spit out your coffee? Yeah. Is that a yes of the coffee or yes to the governor or to both?

Speaker2: [00:47:11] I was I was in Chicago for a few unfortunate years, but yeah. Yeah, I'm a California guy and I love my state. And it's great whether it is some great people. There's a lot of great people, actually. What I really love about it is great habits. We're healthier state, we like the outdoors. People get outside and do stuff I think is really sad when a state is financially upside down and it's also the eighth largest economy in the world. That is only one explanation, just grotesque waste. I won't even call it corruption. It's like we spent four billion dollars on a train and never laid a mile of track. Yeah, it's just gone, and most of it was on environmental studies was studying crickets and moths and stuff like that. Now I certainly care about the crickets and moths. That's obviously overboard. And it was a waste of the taxpayers money. And this is why we have a punishing capital gains tax. We have all kinds of strange things. And of course, the governor shut the whole state down for exorbitant periods of time with no scientific evidence to back up his decision, making it all. So I'm not doing it because I'm egotistical about it, I think a lot of guys get into politics, they think they're great. So clearly everybody else should think that that's not my story. I think I would do a great job. I think I understand the problem crystal clear in I can fix it. I don't think the others who are planning on running, I've looked at who's planning on running and I don't think they have a clear vision of what the state needs. I'm going to run until I win. Or I think there's a better candidate. There are some downsides to me, I might be a little opinionated, I might be seen as toxic masculinity.

Speaker2: [00:49:19] I've been accused of that before. I'm a I'm an aggressive guy. I played rugby. I had a lot of things that guys do that are, you know, sort of looked at like, you know, that joke wasn't funny. Yeah, I think jokes are funny. Sorry. And so. Am I perfect for California? I don't know, but I also don't think we should be we should be picking people based on their general presentation, how they look at their skin color. Let's get somebody qualified. Clearly, we need it. But what I'm terrified about is we'll still have these punishing taxes. Companies will still leave, like it'll still be just as screwed up as it is now, because Gavin Newsom, he's the guy for all the listeners in New York and other states. He's got his governor now and he's actually a friend of mine. I used to work for him. Uh. I like the guy, but he is just done way too many things without justification when it comes to the virus. And then and then on top of that, just just nonsensical monetary policy of the state. Just waste Rudel waste. It just needs to end. So it's again, like I mentioned earlier in the podcast, a lot of people want their politics and their nutritional condensed down into a meme. It's not that simple. But it's also not that complicated. We need to look at where the money's going and just fix a couple of problems. Am I going to fix everything in California in four or eight years? Impossible. So many things are screwed up, but we can fix a couple of big things. We can fix the budget.

Speaker1: [00:50:56] I said, well, I'm excited to have interviewed the potential new governor of California. And I think, you know, if you think about it from, like, your mission to kind of help the bone from inside, which is what literally holds you up as a human, like it is your skeleton, it's your structure, it's your foundation. We think of a house. You need that strong foundation. I think it's kind of ironic that you invented this this machine or this country or whatever you want to call it, contraption or what do you call it, tool, medical device or medical device that helps you do that. Right. Helps you become strong from the inside out. And then that's kind of what you do. You've been doing this for a while and now you're trying to do this as a governor. Like, I think that actually is beautiful, like a full circle. Like you're like, OK, I see the problem. Like, I want to fix as much as I can the infrastructure. I want to make the foundation strong for my state. And like that just shows the full circle moment when you do become governor, that this is a lifelong mission of yours to kind of see something that people weren't able to see because you have a fresh perspective, a fresh pair of eyes, and you're like, that's oh, that's how I fix it. Let me make that strong. And then everything else will come together. So I just wanted to kind of tie that in there. So, you know, this is going to be great excited to see how this turns around. And you have confirmed that you are going to be running for governor of California. So congratulations on that. And because this is a beauty podcast and we did talk about the beautiful weather in your beautiful state, what does beauty mean to you from your perspective?

Speaker2: [00:52:46] Attraction? What attracts people to other people? Turns out it is visible cues that indicate long life. That's what makes people attracted to one another, so like why why do women like strong men? Because they look like they're going to live a long time, be healthy for a long time. Maybe be able to take care of things, whatever that means, depending on where you are, you know, whether it's chop the wood, make make sure everybody's warm for the wintertime or go out and earn a living or, you know, protect the family from from whatever threats may come upon them. Physical strength seems like it is highly associated with longevity, so that's and low body fat, so like we visually can tell what somebody looks like and how healthy they are. So I see. Health and physical performance as. Different names for the same thing now. The reason I like the fitness talking points of what I like X three, that's the strength product, I don't really see it as a fitness device. It's more medical, it's more scientific. It's sort of like Ultranet to fitness. But when people get involved in fitness talking points, they're typically talking about their vanity, how good they look like I want to look like this, and some like when it's a guy who show a picture, a strong male. A lot of women and I really like the trend where women try to build a lot a lot of lower body strength because they like the shape of their legs, shape of their butts. That's wonderful because they're building muscle mass. That's going to put a greater demand on all the organs of the body for focusing for enforcing the other organs of the body to perform at a higher level, which is going to keep them alive longer. And a lot of muscle mass they're going to keep later in life.

Speaker1: [00:55:02] Yeah, but also that that trend for the lower body as well. Like we know and I'm sure, you know, as a doctor probably studied this, that it has shown that women who have more of a muscle mass in the thigh and buttocks area, the lower body part, they produce healthier babies. They store more vitamins and minerals and nutrients. So that it's. So I just wanted to add that because that's when you talk about attraction and like, people don't know why that's attractive, because subconsciously, I guess through many, many, like, you know, caveman times, that's what signal to men like, you know, that's why they call it childbearing hips.

Speaker2: [00:55:41] Well, you can't change the width of your face.

Speaker1: [00:55:43] Right. But like,

Speaker2: [00:55:44] You're it's the same no matter what.

Speaker1: [00:55:46] Yes.

Speaker2: [00:55:46] Well, yes, the curvier a girl is. And when I say curvy, I don't mean fat because very often women are like, oh, yeah, I'm curvy. And I'm like, no, you're obese. But I, of course, say that to be real. Don't convince yourself you're healthy when you're not. My that's that's a that's a smokescreen put in front of yourself, lying to yourself doesn't help, right? You're just masking a brutal problem. So why do I feel sorry for people who are addicted for food? Yeah, I have compassion for them. I mean, the food has been engineered so that it's addictive. It's not by accident, you know.

Speaker1: [00:56:25] But I want to go back to Dr. Jay. I know where we're talking to Dr. Jay, not Governor Jay yet. Yet I want to know about the beauty part. Like you left us hanging here like you were talking about you. You like that women are now focusing more on their lower extremities, which actually engage more muscles. It engages more organs. And it just does so much for the body overall. So finish telling us what beauty is to you.

Speaker2: [00:56:54] Its health, like what's beautiful to me is a healthy hemoglobin A1 C score. By the way, one of the metrics that still counts is a lot of metrics don't count like high cholesterol doesn't matter. The higher your cholesterol is, the longer you're going to live. So people were wrong about that for 20 years. People still say that, and really it's the cholesterol medications that. Harm them or the fact that you know why cholesterol was such a myth for so long? No. OK, so think of an artery. Let's say it's right here. Blood, blood flows through it. What happens is inflammation from eating vegetables or sugar accelerates and different inflammatory type situations that happen to the body cause arterial inflammation. So certain points in the artery, there's inflammation and then as low density lipoprotein flows through. The artery, it sticks at these information points and it may collect and then break loose and cause an aneurysm or heart attack. So. So it was seen as like these things that are sticking there cause the blockage, which are low density lipoprotein LDL. But that wasn't the cause, the cause was the information. So if you have a low sugar diet, having higher cholesterol is fine. In fact, you live longer. There's research to prove that. But it's when you have high sugar and high fat diet, which most people who don't really control the nutrition, that's what they do. Now you're looking at cardiovascular risk, but just cut sugar out in front. This is good to

Speaker1: [00:58:38] Know, guys. So I hope that everyone is taking notes because Dr. J. Is dropping some bombs from all different perspectives about health. And I can't wait to get my X three because I'm going to work on getting my body fat a little lower. So I'm excited about that. So Dr. J. You know about the Beauty Circle. And you know what I'm going to ask you next is where do you find yourself Excel? I feel like I know the answer to this, but I'm going to let you answer. Where do you find yourself excelling in the beauty circle and where do you find yourself needing a little bit more TLC?

Speaker2: [00:59:10] The consistency, the I think also just focusing on science. I don't know where that fits in, but not just doing the right things, but understanding why you're doing the right things. People need to take a little more responsibility when it comes to beauty products, you know what's in it. Are you sure, because some of them have some dangerous chemicals in them, some of them don't, some of them are health promoting, some of them are beauty promoting, but health diminishing. Right. You've got to know, like what you're putting on your skin and also what you put on your skin sometimes transfers into your bloodstream.

Speaker1: [00:59:50] I think a lot of times, right. Because our skin is the largest organ in our body. And you're being very generous because I know that there are even and you as a doctor could probably answer this better, because I'm not a doctor. I'm just like a crazy researcher who likes to, like, ask many questions. I'm the Wegerle girl. Like, I think my podcast should have been like, why? And that's all I ask is why? Why? Even as a child, I was so annoying to my teachers, like, what is photosynthesis and why do we need it and why and why I was that annoying kid. But aren't there some minerals or some medications that absorb better transdermal? Like we know that there is such a thing as your body absorbing. And when people deny this, I always say, so why do we have a birth control patch? Not that I'm promoting that. Why do we have a nicotine patch? Why is it that magnesium there have magnesium patches? Because it's absorbs transdermal, like there are so many other things. Yeah. So to say that the skin doesn't absorb it, I just I'm going to call it out as a lie. Yeah.

Speaker2: [01:00:53] Well now some things will transfer easier than others. Right.

Speaker1: [01:00:58] And so where would you say that. You think that you could use a little bit more help in the circle and that could be you know, it could be water intake. It could be sleep. It could be spirituality. It could be relationships to yourself with others. It could be bowel movements. Like where do you think? Or skin and makeup. Yes. For you. Where do you think that you need extra TLC? I don't say the makeup that we're not going to cut that category.

Speaker2: [01:01:24] And I don't know, I'm on film a lot like so you could pick up on me and keep me from being shiny. OK, but it's it's pretty easy. They don't need it. They don't need a blended into my hairline. So from from my perspective, answer your question. Yes. There's a lot of things people want me to present on. Recently been talking about dry fasting, meaning no food, no water and of course, hydration, like we hear about hydration all the time. But we don't have any baseline for hydration. Like the whole like you need two liters of water a day. Somebody made that up. Like there's no scientific basis in that at all. And so I've been I've been doing some spending some time reading about like what's done for Ramadan because Ramadan passing is fascinating and like I want to get that information of the world and. I don't quite have like I'm on so many podcast and there's a lot of media stuff, and then the filming days, like with Terrell Owens or we got another filming day on Friday, the world would be a whole day. It'd be cameras and lighting and stuff like that for more of just like a training kind of video stuff. So I'd like to just be able to free up some more time so I can get my research done because honestly, I'm only good at one thing. And most people are really good at one thing, right, and everything else, they just kind of limping along.

Speaker2: [01:02:56] But I can read research and remember forever. That's amazing, though, when I read research. I have to take notes. Wow. And I can I can read a study and draw a parallel to a study I read 10 years ago, and I will remember the author of the study I read 10 years ago and find it in 10 seconds, and then I'll be able to read the two side by side, draw a parallel and write about it. And so you like like one study, maybe in one totally different field, one maybe endocrinology, another one might be dermatology and I can go, OK, these these two things make sense. But because X is is as a parent and so is why now I have a conclusion I can I can come to or suggest. Right. OK, that's fair. That's yeah. That's really like the one thing. And that's also why I've never had anybody like real like I've had a couple of people who don't really understand research, make some, you know, silly Facebook videos about like what a jerk I am because I'm wrong about this and this and this. And then they provide no evidence. And so even the commenters are like, OK, you like you have no science. And the guy in his book used more than two hundred fifty references. Scientific studies. No. Usually you're not the one right? It's just foolish. There is no real scientists is actually ever had a problem

Speaker1: [01:04:27] With anything I said. So the category that you would probably want is the relationship with yourself to have more time so that you can read more research papers and really start, you know, getting some intel on this drive fast thing and just the whole phenomenon of fast. What I'm interested in hearing your findings. Keep keep me in the loop, please, because I am always interested in this. I think that the body's metabolic flexibility is really something that we haven't really explored as much as we could have, if that makes sense.

Speaker2: [01:05:04] That was very well put. So what we've traditionally been doing is looking at normative data. Now, let me define that for everybody. Normative data is what the average is, so like vitamin consumption or liquid consumption? Well. Considering half of our nation is overweight or obese or morbidly obese, do we really care what the averages are? So we're comparing ourselves to people who are the fattest and sickest that humans have ever been. Also, here's another like vegan thing right now, the Western diet standard American diet is 70 percent plant based. So we go to 80 percent. Are we going to be better? Because like I said, we're the fattest and sickest ever at 70 percent. By increasing the number, we're going to get better because that seems wrong.

Speaker1: [01:06:01] And of course, it is no, I mean, we can get this is like a whole nother podcast, but when you do find the research, I'm sure that you're going to have some product out there, you know, to help us with that, because I do feel like it's going to be trending soon, not trending, but like more studies are going to come out because there are so many fasting protocols and people are talking about fasting and going into ketosis and the formula for energy and all these things. So we haven't really looked at it. And if you think about the caveman days, and I always refer to that because I think that's like a baseline for, like Hercules. Right. You think about how people went for days without food. Right. And like also that all or

Speaker2: [01:06:39] One, they didn't have a hydro flask that they carried around for the perfect hydration.

Speaker1: [01:06:43] Right. But then also you think about the need from a nutritional perspective. Right. Like, I just had this conversation with someone on the live and we talk about like maybe they could have had one carrot, but that one carrot. There's actually a study I don't know if you know about that study, but it actually said you need 220 carrots to equal the nutritional value of a one like one carrot like, you know, from a long time ago that was more nutrient based, not like cropped like a model.

Speaker2: [01:07:12] Are you talking about engineering? Yeah.

Speaker1: [01:07:14] So like a lot of

Speaker2: [01:07:16] Guys that we messed with. Yeah.

Speaker1: [01:07:19] So like also considering that from our side diet, which is the standard American diet, that even if you are getting those vegetables, how many nutrients are really in that vegetable? Because you know, that whole thing about diabetes and people that are obese, you know, we are eating, consuming a lot of food that is empty, empty and nutrition just empty, carbs just empty nothing, which is why you're still hungry. And most of the people are just craving more. And it's like, I don't know why I eat more, but I ate so much. But I'm still because your body's saying I need more nutrients, I need more minerals, I need more hydration because like, even the water is not like the same as you could find it. And and you know this, right? Like a spring water is different like you would get. And nature is different than like a Poland Spring bottle of water. Like the structure of that is completely different. The way that your body absorbs it so we can go up like this is like as you can tell, I'm passionate about this and I feel like you do see that big plate of food, but I see sometimes a big plate of food of like emptiness. And when you eat value. Right. Like, I would love to hear your perspective before we we've been on this podcast for a while, so and I'm going to be respectful of your time. But when you eat these kinds of high nutrient based foods, you're not really so hungry and you're not craving things. Right. Like, isn't that remarkable?

Speaker2: [01:08:39] One meal a day. Yeah, I'm never hungry. Now, when it's time to eat and, you know, I can smell the food I'm about to eat, you know,

Speaker1: [01:08:48] So you don't get hungry.

Speaker2: [01:08:51] No, no, I'm totally calm all the time. OK, cool. Yeah, and you know, one meal or whatever. Twenty three hours.

Speaker1: [01:08:59] Ok, cool. So, Dr. Day, our podcast is coming to an end and something that I ask all of my guests is to share one tip that or one piece of advice that they would have shared with the younger version of themselves.

Speaker2: [01:09:14] So a lot of people think that X three, I'm most known for X three, even though probably the more important thing is the bone density. I mean, osteoporosis is a disease that kills as many people as breast cancer. I came up with the most effective treatment for it. So scientifically, that was a bigger achievement than making muscles grow. Now, I think over time, x ray will be recognized as something that keeps people alive longer because they have higher levels of muscle mass and lower levels of body fat. So both may be saving lives, but there's a more direct connection with with osteo strong in the piece of advice, I would I would tell myself because a. I got to work on this for a long time and the two products go hand in hand, the self education like you don't just learn in school, you learn the whole time you're doing something from a professional perspective, especially like me inventing things, creating things that nobody ever saw before and only heard of it is advice that I was given, but I didn't believe it at the time. Just be relentless. Just don't stop like, you know, you're right. And I did. Even if it takes your whole lifetime, you'll never have a great. Like, that's the worst thing is the person who had the idea and then they end up hating themselves because they never, ever knew if their idea was worth it or not, if it would have worked.

Speaker2: [01:10:50] And so when it came to the osteoporosis device, of course, in the first thousand people I told about, it were like, stupid, that's never going to work. And I just realized that I probably just didn't have my talking points. Right, or maybe it was too detailed or something like that. Even now, I had a I had a great conversation with marketing team yesterday and they were telling me, I'm going I still am going too much into detail when describing the product. You know, it gives you the opportunity to train heavier than you've ever trained. Yeah, you say that like that's what it does. And that's certainly an easier thing to say than explaining variable resistance and how your strength is different from here and here and here and here. Like, yeah, I mean, I can go through all that stuff, but everyone even people who don't understand my product or my research or can't read a research study, which is most people, because they're complicated, they understand you train heavier, you get a much bigger response of a body. And if you can train heavier than you can move weights, well, let's do that then, because that sounds better and it is not giving up looking for a better path. Always, always refining and even refining things that have been documented in our in your marketing material on your website. You never abandoned a piece of text.

Speaker2: [01:12:23] You never just go, that's good enough and leave that alone. OK, you can leave it alone for now, but you always have to go back and revisit. This is the best way to say this is I say it better. Can I say so? It's more easily understood. Can I say it so? Women don't worry that they're going to look like men if they use the product like and like I said, it's not a goofy question. I get the question or customer service gets a question probably one hundred times a day. The women that especially on Instagram, for some reason, I get a lot of female followers on Instagram and they're asking questions like like I really like your approach to fitness because it doesn't look dangerous because they don't wanna get hurt because they know they have girlfriends that have gone and lifted heavy and crosthwaite class or whatever and ended up having a BA land in their teeth and knock on their teeth or carrying on tricep or something like that hamstring. That's another common common injury. They're like, I think what you're doing is very low risk of injury and the right it is so. But will it work for me in I'm thinking? Why would you even ask that question? It's not obvious, it's not obvious because they're worried they're going to look like me with a wig, which would be very unattractive.

Speaker1: [01:13:35] That was my concern, to be honest.

Speaker2: [01:13:38] Yeah, I mean, I had a wig once for Halloween. I look terrible.

Speaker1: [01:13:43] Can we get a picture of that?

Speaker2: [01:13:44] So what else did you picture? I was he can remember he in we hold up the sword, you know, and like like he became like a different person. You look exactly the same. And even his friends couldn't recognize him. It made no sense. The easiest way to get lean strength training, the easiest way to get strength training done with low risk and high effectiveness is X three. And I urge anybody to read the book in another general piece of advice is don't just follow. Understand? I always every Instagram post that I make, there's a little bit of research in there. Like it's like here's this observation. It was made in this study. Keep this in mind when you exercise or something like that. And it's so like twice a week plus twice a week. And the stories are usually the results of some of the users. But. Every week there's like something where I might say, like, cardio is not the best choice. You want to lose body fat and get a lot of incoming questions like what is? And then, you know, that conversation starts are telling just just follow the account, OK? You'll get all the information or you'll go ahead and go ahead and read the book.

Speaker2: [01:14:59] But people are way too complacent and just doing what they're told. Instead of trying to understand or ask questions, we can we can put that the politics to like. You know, we have we have people in Washington that are like, you know, just just do what we say and it's like, well, wait a minute, why? Like, I want to understand why you're making those decisions. And, oh, it turns out you all the data that you're citing that you made the decision off of was faked. So, no, we're not going to do what we're told. I like that about this country in general. I think we're better than a lot of other countries not doing what we're told and asking why somebody has a good enough reason as to why it's like, all right, well, I have no problem doing that. But why do people not want to wear masks? Because the covid. Particle is smaller than water vapor, can water vapor go through your mask, stand in front of a mirror and breathe when you're wearing a mask you see on the mirror, if, yes, the mask does nothing.

Speaker1: [01:16:06] Right. And so I love that advice that you're giving to your younger self, to people who are listening to the podcast is never give up or was asked questions. Do not be embarrassed of those questions and then understand understand why you're doing something. And I feel like you're singing kind of like my anthem that's made you never give me everything. But yeah, that's my anthem. Never give up. Always ask questions and always know why, why you're doing this. And that's me literally. So I think we're so aligned I can't wait to get my X three and become strong and just have strong bones in general and just have my body fat go down and become more lean. So I'm excited about that. So Dr. J. Where can we find you? Where can we get a copy of your book that we didn't talk about enough? But I feel like we can do a life and death and do that. Talk about the book when I get my autographed copy. That's right. I put that in a request to

Speaker2: [01:17:04] Give you an autographed hard copy. The hard copy just came in.

Speaker1: [01:17:08] Oh, you see.

Speaker2: [01:17:09] Yeah, it's really nice.

Speaker1: [01:17:10] Ok, so I'm going to get the Hixton.

Speaker2: [01:17:12] So which one is room is just Dr. Jaquiss, D.R, JHU, Uist age. But there's that's a lot to remember. There's a link to that on my landing page, which is just Dr. JD.com or the letter J dot com.

Speaker1: [01:17:29] That's perfect, and we can get the book on there as well, or where do we find the book?

Speaker2: [01:17:33] Yeah, there's no links to everything. There's links to Ostia. Strong bone density is your question to X three Bardock, if you know, it's like superior strength, superior bone, superior nutrition. So those are sort of the three product categories that are developed, products that the Vortigern, the superior nutrition. I don't really develop that kind of reappropriated it from, like I said, that that cancer of the anti wasting type protein, it's a little different because it's designed to be more anabolic. OK, but that will that will regenerate human tissue in protein synthesis. Better than anything, any food you could eat it, it's better than it's even better than steak.

Speaker1: [01:18:16] Ok, I need to get that. I need to know I'm going to be broke. I'm going to get all these things and we're going to do a live about this and talk about it. You guys, you've sold sold to the highest bidder.

Speaker2: [01:18:28] It's nothing expensive. Keep in mind, I think about a two dollar dose of fajon is as good as eating an eight ounce steak. And if somebody offers you an eight ounce steak for two dollars, don't eat it.

Speaker1: [01:18:40] No, don't eat it. Yes. So thank you so much for that. And we are ending the podcast. Thank you for being here. Thank you for sharing with us all of the amazing conversation that we had. And goodbye. What an amazing podcast. We heard Dr. James basically talk about how he is running for governor of California. We heard about NASA, how they might be using his product to help get people on Mars. And we heard about fitness and we heard about food and we had just amazing conversation. So if you like what you heard, please give this episode. Five star review, if you felt like it was valuable. Also, don't forget to check out Dr. James Instagram and I will put on the show notes in the bottom as well as write a review. It goes a long way. And if you felt like this information was impactful, it was funny. It was great. You learn something. Please feel free to share this with at least five people who, you know, would get some value out of this. So until next time. See you guys next week. Bye, guys.

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