In this episode of ASPI’s Bigger Picture series, Peter Jennings speaks to Dr David Kilcullen, Professor of International and Political Studies at UNSWCanberra. They discuss the global implications of the continued conflict between Russia and Ukraine, the state of Afghanistan since the withdrawal of international forces, and the future of Australia’s defence capability versus meeting its current short-term demands.

Dr David Kilcullen is a former soldier and diplomat, and a scholar of guerrilla warfare, terrorism, urbanisation and the future of conflict, who served 25 years for the Australian and United States governments.

Guests (in order of appearance):

Peter Jennings: www.aspi.org.au/bio/peter-jennings

Dr David Kilcullen: https://www.unsw.adfa.edu.au/david-kilcullen

Background music: "Late Night Drive" by Nat Keefe & BeatMower