The National Security Podcast

How does our strategic environment inform leadership in intelligence and national security? 

How do partnerships assist intel collection in an increasingly complex world?  

What are the foundations of trust in a leader?  

This episode is a panel discussion, hosted by Meg Tapia at the 2024 Women in National Security LIVE, features Kerri Hartland, Heather Smith, and Heather Cook. They explore leadership in a complex strategic environment, being a 'first,' and the importance of relationships in national security. 

Kerri Hartland is the Director-General of the Australian Secret Intelligence Service. 

Dr Heather Smith PSM FAIIA is the National President of the Australian Institute of International Affairs. 

Heather Cook is the Chief Executive Officer of the Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission. 

Meg Tapia is an Expert Associate at the ANU National Security College.  

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Show notes  

• NSC academic programs – find out more 
• 2024 Independent Intelligence Review overview 
• Australian Institute of International Affairs  
• Australian Criminal Intelligence Commission 
• Australian Secret Intelligence Service  

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What is the relationship between national security and politics? 

How does national security policymaking differ from other areas of public policy?

And how might the decline of major parties in Australia impact the national security policymaking process?

In this episode, George Brandis – Australia's former Attorney-General and High Commissioner to the United kingdom – joins David Andrews to discuss the politics of national security policymaking.  

Professor The Honourable George Brandis KC is a Professor in the Practice of National Security in a joint appoint to the ANU National Security College (NSC) and the ANU College of Law.  

David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at NSC. 

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Show notes:  

• Listener survey: The National Security Podcast 
• NSC academic programs – find out more 

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What is the role of the Army in an era shaped by strategic competition?

How is the Army adapting for wars of the future?

Why is it important to build trust between the Army and Australian society?

In this episode, Simon Stuart joins Rory Medcalf discuss the changing nature of warfare, and how the Australian Army is positioned to succeed in facing future challenges.

Lieutenant General Simon Stuart AO DSC is Chief of the Australian Army.

Professor Rory Medcalf AM is Head of the ANU National Security College (NSC). His professional experience spans more than three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia.

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Show notes

·        Listener survey: The Nation Security Podcast 

·        NSC academic programs – find out more  

·        Defence Strategic Review 2023

·        National Defence Strategy 2024

·        A2/AD systems

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How will automated systems and artificial intelligence change the nature of weaponry?

What ethical issues are at play when we discuss lethal autonomous weapons? Can weapons be programmed to follow the laws of armed conflict?

How does public literacy influence perceptions of weapons systems?

In this episode, Zena Assaad and Lauren Sanders join Danielle Ireland-Piper to discuss weapons regulation, and how artificial intelligence and autonomous systems changes the arms landscape.

Dr Zena Assaad is a Senior Research Fellow with the School of Engineering at the Australian National University (ANU).

Dr Lauren Sanders is a Senior Research Fellow with the TC Beirne School of Law at the University of Queensland, in the Law and Future of War Project.

Dr Danielle-Ireland Piper is Academic Director and Associate Professor at the ANU National Security College (NSC). 

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Show notes

• Listener survey: The Nation Security Podcast 
• NSC academic programs – find out more 
• UN Report on Governing AI  
• EU AI Act 
• Responsible AI in the Military Summit 
• Legal review of autonomous weapons systems  

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How do electoral commissions balance public trust with the growing role of technology (like Artificial Intelligence) in electoral processes? Can AI be a democratic tool? 

How are the electoral commissions in Australia and UK dealing with threats like misinformation and foreign interference? 

Why is absolute independence important for the Australian and UK electoral commissions? 

In this episode, Tom Rogers and Vijay Rangarajan join Rory Medcalf to discuss congruent and colliding features of the Australian and British electoral systems: the role of losers' consent, the electoral commissions’ absolute independence, trust in democratic institutions, and influence of foreign interference come election time.  

Tom Rogers is the Australian Electoral Commissioner.  

Vijay Rangarajan is the Commissioner of the UK Electoral Commission.  

Professor Rory Medcalf is Head of the ANU National Security College. His experience spans three decades across diplomacy, intelligence analysis, think tanks, journalism and academia.  

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Show notes:  

• Listener survey: The Nation Security Podcast  
• NSC academic programs – find out more   
• Electoral Integrity Assurance Task Force  

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How do negative portrayals of migrants and refugees impact social cohesion within a society? 

What is "crimmigration," and what are the issues with using criminal law frameworks in immigration contexts?

Do political incentives shape the discourse on migration and distract from other security threats?

In this episode, Alan Gamlen, Kate Ogg, and Dorota Gozdecka join Danielle Ireland-Piper to discuss "crimmigation”, why migration is a politically charged issue, and discuss High Court cases that have influenced Australia’s approach to migration and refugee laws.

Professor Alan Gamlen is the Director of the ANU Migration Hub and Professor in the ANU School of Regulation and Global Governance.  

Professor Kate Ogg is a Professor and the Associate Dean of Higher Degree Research at the ANU College of Law. 

Professor Dorota Gozdecka is a Professor of Law at the University of Helsinki in Finland.   

Dr Danielle Ireland-Piper is Academic Director and Associate Professor at the ANU National Security College. 

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Show notes  

• Listener survey
• NSC academic programs: find out more   
• Kate Ogg's book
• Dorota Gozdecka's book
• Alan Gamlen in The Guardian
• Mark J. Miller and Stephen Castles: The age of migration  
• Jim Hollifield and Phillip Martin: Controlling immigration: a global perspective 
• Reyna Grande and Sonia Guiñansaca: Somewhere we are human: authentic voices on migration, survival and new beginnings 
• William Maley: Australia's refugee policy: domestic politics and diplomatic consequences 
• Professor James Hathway: The rights of refugees under international law  

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Collective mobilisation is needed for an adequate response to climate change. How do we get there?

How does climate change affect militaries? What role can technology play in mitigating the risks?

What challenges does federalism pose in the effort to address climate change?

In this episode, Tom Middendorp, Chris Barrie, Cheryl Durrant, and Sophie Lewis join Danielle Ireland-Piper to examine the critical link between climate change and national security, and what action is needed to mitigate the risks posed by it. 

General (Retired) Middendorp AO is the Chair of the International Military Council on Climate and Security and the former Dutch Chief of Defence. 

Admiral (Rtd) Chris Barrie AC is the former Australian Chief of the Defence Force and a founding and executive member of the Australian Security Leaders Climate Group. 

Cheyrl Durrant is the Former Director of Preparedness and Mobilisation at the Australian Department of Defence and a founding and executive member of the Australian Security Leaders Climate Group. 

Dr Sophie Lewis is ACT Commissioner for Sustainability and the Environment.   

Dr Danielle Ireland-Piper is Academic Director at the ANU National Security College (NSC).  

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Show notes

• Listener survey: The Nation Security Podcast 
• NSC academic programs – find out more  
• Tom Middendorp’s book – The Climate General  
• Chris Barrie’s report – Climate change, security and Australia’s Defence Force  

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What is the significance of rare earths and critical minerals for Australia and its partners?  

How does Australia’s conception of critical minerals differ from its partners? How do critical minerals lists reflect how those states view resource supply chains and vulnerabilities?  

With China currently dominating the rare earths value chain, how can Australia protect its interests in this space?

In this episode, Hayley Channer and John Mavrogenes join David Andrews to discuss critical minerals and rare earths and the geopolitical landscape surrounding them. 

Hayley Channer is Director, Economic Security at the United States Studies Centre at the University of Sydney.  

Professor John Mavrogenes is a Professor of Economic Geology at the ANU Research School of Earth Sciences.  

David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC).  

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Show notes:  

• NSC academic programs – find out more  
• NSC's professional development program on rare earths and critical minerals 
• Kim Beazley’s call for a rare earths and critical minerals ‘Pillar 3’ for AUKUS 
• Jeff Wilson’s paper on how the Quad could play a coordinating role in this space 

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What are the key takeaways from the 2024 Quad Leaders’ Summit?  

The Quad has helped its members to align and coordinate key policies, but what more needs to be done to improve its ability to deliver on major initiatives?  

Would the Quad benefit from pursuing a foundational treaty, agreement, or common branding, or is it better served by retaining its current, flexible approach? 

In this episode, Gaurav Saini and Kate Clayton join David Andrews to discuss the 2024 Quad Leaders’ Summit, and what the future may look like with incoming leadership changes. 

Dr Gaurav Saini is the co-founder of the Council for Strategic and Defence Research, a New Delhi think tank focused on foreign policy and security issues. He is part of the US State Department's Emerging Quad Think Tank Leaders program. 

Kate Clayton is a Senior Coordinator for Research and Programs at La Trobe Asia and the Blue Security Maritime Exchange.  

David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC). 

Show notes:  

• NSC academic programs – find out more  
• Joint statement from the leaders of Australia, India, Japan, and the United States 
• Gaurav Saini’s article in the Lowy Institute Interpreter – with NSC's Dirk van der Kley.  

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How can public policy better reflect the humanity and vulnerability of citizens? 

How can government leaders remain mindful of individuals within broader systems, and how does this approach improve public policy outcomes? 

How can governments foster ethical leadership and accountability while balancing political pressures and systemic challenges? 

In this episode, Mark Crosweller and Margaret Moreton join David Andrews to discuss compassion, ethical leadership, resilience, and the tensions between individuals and institutions in the national security space.  

Dr Mark Crosweller AFSM is a Distinguished Advisor at the ANU National Security College (NSC) and Director of Ethical Intelligence Pty Ltd.  

Dr Margaret Moreton is Executive Director at the Australian Institute for Disaster Resilience.  

David Andrews is a Senior Policy Advisor at NSC.  

Show notes:  

•  ANU academic programs – find out more  
• Mark’s book -  Compassion in Disaster Management: The Essential Ethic of Relational Leadership 
• IPCC – The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change   

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